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Post by Los Angeles Lakers on Feb 6, 2008 6:20:59 GMT -5
sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3232862LMFAO at PHX for doing this. They have officially lost the title with this move. Shawn Marion maybe 31 years old, but he is still atheletic, Shaq has lost a lot. THIS WAS A PURE KNEEJERK REACTION TO LAKERS GETTING GASOL. They didn't use their brains for this one, it was a pure kneejerk reaction to Lakers getting Gasol. Shaq is going to hold the Suns back now even more, it's going to be 4 on 5 every time on Offense. BTW before anyone brings up how good Amare and Shaq does defensively let's look at what Bynum did aganist Amare in head to head match up. 15 Points and 9 Rebounds on the first game. 28 Points and 12 Rebounds on the second game. Oh BTW Amare was in foul trouble for both games.
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Feb 6, 2008 8:59:55 GMT -5
lakers wont do anything, 2nd rd exit
suns with shaq will have a good chance to go to the finals
looks like someone is nervous..
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Post by Oklahoma City Thunder on Feb 6, 2008 9:01:35 GMT -5
Great deal for the suns. The one thing that was slowing them down the last few years in the playoffs were the spurs. The spurs play a slow down tempo game and adding shaq solves that.
Not to mention Marion was gonna walk after this season anyway, so you might as well get something for him.
And I totally disagree with you LAL, this was not a reaction to the lakers deal. This was brewing for the last month. We all knew shaq was gonna be dealt out west to either the suns or mavs and it happened finally.
This was a deal to help them get past SAS. Im pretty sure they didnt even think about the lakers.
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Post by Denver Nuggets on Feb 6, 2008 10:16:10 GMT -5
The deal makes alot of sense...nash is agin the window for a championship is closin... with marion u'll be as good as last season which is at best the west finals.with shaq u got a player which teams still doubles plus amare changes everything. If nash is realy as good as they say he'll make shaq better which can be dangerous.
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Post by Utah Jazz on Feb 6, 2008 10:52:14 GMT -5
I really don't like this. But hey, if the Suns think they can win a championship with this, they're in charge to either reap the rewards, or just have Shaq down 30lbs. by the end of the season.
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Post by Los Angeles Lakers on Feb 6, 2008 13:05:45 GMT -5
lakers wont do anything, 2nd rd exit suns with shaq will have a good chance to go to the finals looks like someone is nervous.. WHY THE HELL WOULD I BE WORRIED ABOUT A TEAM THAT JUST MADE THEMSELVES BAD, TYPICAL ANSWER FROM TYPICAL PISTONS FAN. Maybe Shaq whooping your ass with the Heat got to you. Marion is better then Shaq right now, with this deal the Suns just shot themselves of a chance to win a title.
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Post by Los Angeles Lakers on Feb 6, 2008 13:09:28 GMT -5
THE SUNS DON'T PLAY DEFENSE AS IS.
Watch Shaq quit on Defense if he does not get enough touches on Offense.
They just shot themselves with this trade.
and I am not even worried about matching up with amare, Bynum already destroyed him twice.
Nash can't play a lick of defense, and Bell is the only good defender and he can't hold Kobe on his OWN.
Marion was their BEST FASTBREAK PLAYER, without him this team is DONE.
BTW Lakers bench is better then Suns, Walton, Farmer, Turiaf, Sasha and Vlad have been doing nice jobs this year, while it's Diaw and Barbosa of the Suns again.
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Feb 6, 2008 13:10:39 GMT -5
just wait
this move was excellent for the suns
marion didnt want to play there, he wasnt going to re-sign, and now they have a good defensive player that is dominate down low
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Post by hardballer1 - NYK on Feb 6, 2008 15:03:08 GMT -5
yeah marion would have opted out any way so i think it is a good deal for phx who can move amare to pf instead of him having to play out of position at c.
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Post by Los Angeles Lakers on Feb 6, 2008 15:44:51 GMT -5
just wait this move was excellent for the suns marion didnt want to play there, he wasnt going to re-sign, and now they have a good defensive player that is dominate down low HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. IF SHAQ DECIDES TO PLAY AT ALL LET ALONE DEFENSE. he took plenty of game of during the 02-03 season just to HEAL his sore knee. AND NOT ONLY KOBE, BUT PHIL, WADE, PENNY, RILEY AND BRIAN HILL QUESTIONED SHAQ'S WORK ETHIC. The guy has none, he survived in the NBA via BRUTE STRENGTH and that's it, nothing more, nothing less. He also has a knack of not playing DEFENSE if he is not the focal point of the Offense which he sometimes did in Miami, that's why YOU SAW MOURNING NOT SHAQ, in the 4th quarter most of the time DURING THE FINALS.
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Post by Utah Jazz on Feb 6, 2008 18:56:40 GMT -5
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Post by Atlanta Hawks on Feb 6, 2008 19:55:01 GMT -5
just wait this move was excellent for the suns marion didnt want to play there, he wasnt going to re-sign, and now they have a good defensive player that is dominate down low HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. IF SHAQ DECIDES TO PLAY AT ALL LET ALONE DEFENSE. he took plenty of game of during the 02-03 season just to HEAL his sore knee. AND NOT ONLY KOBE, BUT PHIL, WADE, PENNY, RILEY AND BRIAN HILL QUESTIONED SHAQ'S WORK ETHIC. The guy has none, he survived in the NBA via BRUTE STRENGTH and that's it, nothing more, nothing less. He also has a knack of not playing DEFENSE if he is not the focal point of the Offense which he sometimes did in Miami, that's why YOU SAW MOURNING NOT SHAQ, in the 4th quarter most of the time DURING THE FINALS. Typical Lakers fan. Who is going to stop Shaq down low? Bynum? Gasol? They won't be able to and if they double him Amare will be wide open or one of their many 3-point shooters. You are also forgetting Zo is a beast on defense. There really is no comparable player on defense. Again, name me ONE team that can matchup Shaq/Amare.
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Post by Utah Jazz on Feb 6, 2008 19:56:27 GMT -5
Do you mean Shaq is beast on defense instead of saying Zo? I know Mourning is too, but didn't really get it.
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Post by New Jersey Nets on Feb 6, 2008 19:57:22 GMT -5
oh my....oh my....well lets WAIT and SEE it wasnt so good IMo since that Shaq is old, fatty and doenst seem to want another title... lets see what happens
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Post by Sacramento Kings on Feb 6, 2008 20:00:55 GMT -5
Wanna know something REALLY funny?? If Snaq gets traded to the Suns ... what are they going to do about the Miami/Atlanta replay game??? Ooooooooooooo maybe snaq will get a heat/suns reversable jersey!! LMMFAO!!! ;D
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Post by Los Angeles Lakers on Feb 6, 2008 22:46:43 GMT -5
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. IF SHAQ DECIDES TO PLAY AT ALL LET ALONE DEFENSE. he took plenty of game of during the 02-03 season just to HEAL his sore knee. AND NOT ONLY KOBE, BUT PHIL, WADE, PENNY, RILEY AND BRIAN HILL QUESTIONED SHAQ'S WORK ETHIC. The guy has none, he survived in the NBA via BRUTE STRENGTH and that's it, nothing more, nothing less. He also has a knack of not playing DEFENSE if he is not the focal point of the Offense which he sometimes did in Miami, that's why YOU SAW MOURNING NOT SHAQ, in the 4th quarter most of the time DURING THE FINALS. Typical Lakers fan. Who is going to stop Shaq down low? Bynum? Gasol? They won't be able to and if they double him Amare will be wide open or one of their many 3-point shooters. You are also forgetting Zo is a beast on defense. There really is no comparable player on defense. Again, name me ONE team that can matchup Shaq/Amare. SAN ANTONIO SPURS, NEW ORLEANS HORNETS, LAKERS, JAZZ, AND THE MAVS, OH BTW THE PISTONS, THE CAVS, AND LASTLY THE MAGICS AND THE CELTICS. Shaq and Amare is the worst SUPERSTAR FRONT-COURT DEFENDERS IN THE LEAGUE NOW. I am telling you once again, SHAQ WHEN HE WANTS TO FEEL LIKE PLAYING DEFENSE HE WILL. He has never been known to be a good defensive player, with his size and skill he should have won atleast 5 DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR AWARDS, but he ALWAYS QUITS ON DEFENSE, IF HE DOES NOT GET ENOUGH TOUCHES ON THE OFFENSIVE END, HE IS JUST TOO ARROGANT AND PRIDEFUL. and maybe you don't watch Amare enough, but he gets ticky tacky foul calls almost every game because he can't play a lick of defense. And if the Suns starts struggling watch Shaq throw Nash, STAT, and the Head Coach under the bus like he has in Orlando, LA, and now Miami. Typical idiot Cowgirl fan answer. BTW have you watched Shaq this season and last season, the guy is bricking lay ups and missing dunks, he isn't that SAME Shaq that strikes fear into people. HE IS THE REASON why PHX will not win the title, if Amare can't handle playing with Marion and Nash, then let's see if he can handle playing with Shaq.
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Feb 6, 2008 22:55:33 GMT -5
Typical Lakers fan. Who is going to stop Shaq down low? Bynum? Gasol? They won't be able to and if they double him Amare will be wide open or one of their many 3-point shooters. You are also forgetting Zo is a beast on defense. There really is no comparable player on defense. Again, name me ONE team that can matchup Shaq/Amare. SAN ANTONIO SPURS, NEW ORLEANS HORNETS, LAKERS, JAZZ, AND THE MAVS, OH BTW THE PISTONS, THE CAVS, AND LASTLY THE MAGICS AND THE CELTICS. Shaq and Amare is the worst SUPERSTAR FRONT-COURT DEFENDERS IN THE LEAGUE NOW. I am telling you once again, SHAQ WHEN HE WANTS TO FEEL LIKE PLAYING DEFENSE HE WILL. He has never been known to be a good defensive player, with his size and skill he should have won atleast 5 DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR AWARDS, but he ALWAYS QUITS ON DEFENSE, IF HE DOES NOT GET ENOUGH TOUCHES ON THE OFFENSIVE END, HE IS JUST TOO ARROGANT AND PRIDEFUL. and maybe you don't watch Amare enough, but he gets ticky tacky foul calls almost every game because he can't play a lick of defense. And if the Suns starts struggling watch Shaq throw Nash, STAT, and the Head Coach under the bus like he has in Orlando, LA, and now Miami. Typical idiot Cowgirl fan answer. BTW have you watched Shaq this season and last season, the guy is bricking lay ups and missing dunks, he isn't that SAME Shaq that strikes fear into people. HE IS THE REASON why PHX will not win the title, if Amare can't handle playing with Marion and Nash, then let's see if he can handle playing with Shaq. all i have to say is lol just kidding but sereiously most those teams u named couldnt keep up with shaq-amare and plz tell me u were kidding when u said cavs and mavs and a few of those other teams could keep up with phx frontcourt
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Post by Los Angeles Lakers on Feb 6, 2008 23:06:34 GMT -5
SAN ANTONIO SPURS, NEW ORLEANS HORNETS, LAKERS, JAZZ, AND THE MAVS, OH BTW THE PISTONS, THE CAVS, AND LASTLY THE MAGICS AND THE CELTICS. Shaq and Amare is the worst SUPERSTAR FRONT-COURT DEFENDERS IN THE LEAGUE NOW. I am telling you once again, SHAQ WHEN HE WANTS TO FEEL LIKE PLAYING DEFENSE HE WILL. He has never been known to be a good defensive player, with his size and skill he should have won atleast 5 DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR AWARDS, but he ALWAYS QUITS ON DEFENSE, IF HE DOES NOT GET ENOUGH TOUCHES ON THE OFFENSIVE END, HE IS JUST TOO ARROGANT AND PRIDEFUL. and maybe you don't watch Amare enough, but he gets ticky tacky foul calls almost every game because he can't play a lick of defense. And if the Suns starts struggling watch Shaq throw Nash, STAT, and the Head Coach under the bus like he has in Orlando, LA, and now Miami. Typical idiot Cowgirl fan answer. BTW have you watched Shaq this season and last season, the guy is bricking lay ups and missing dunks, he isn't that SAME Shaq that strikes fear into people. HE IS THE REASON why PHX will not win the title, if Amare can't handle playing with Marion and Nash, then let's see if he can handle playing with Shaq. all i have to say is lol just kidding but sereiously most those teams u named couldnt keep up with shaq-amare and plz tell me u were kidding when u said cavs and mavs and a few of those other teams could keep up with phx frontcourt FIRST OF ALL, let's see if Shaq decides to run up and down the court, you know Shaq ONLY WANTS TO PLAY AND RESPECT HOF COACHES AND COACHES WITH RINGS. So will he listen to Mike D'Antoni or won't he. SECOND, Amare and Shaq may dominate Offensively, but Defensively they will get hammered as well as pick up stupid fouls to cost the team games. Shaq already fouled OUT what 7 times this year, Amare constantly gets in foul trouble. THIRD will Amare swallow his pride to let Shaq get his touches as well, Amare did say THE SUNS WERE HIS TEAM ONCE, and he could not play with a guy like Marion who did his job, but can he play with Shaq. BTW the Cavs don't have a scurb front-court, Gooden, Big Z, and Lebron is probably one of the best front-courts in the game, and could cause problems for PHX. Same goes for Mavs, your underestimating Dirk and Howard too much, and now that Shaq is in the conference, Dampier might actually want to SHOW UP Shaq every time.
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Post by Denver Nuggets on Feb 6, 2008 23:10:08 GMT -5
Typical Lakers fan. Who is going to stop Shaq down low? Bynum? Gasol? They won't be able to and if they double him Amare will be wide open or one of their many 3-point shooters. You are also forgetting Zo is a beast on defense. There really is no comparable player on defense. Again, name me ONE team that can matchup Shaq/Amare. SAN ANTONIO SPURS, NEW ORLEANS HORNETS, LAKERS, JAZZ, AND THE MAVS, OH BTW THE PISTONS, THE CAVS, AND LASTLY THE MAGICS AND THE CELTICS. Shaq and Amare is the worst SUPERSTAR FRONT-COURT DEFENDERS IN THE LEAGUE NOW. I am telling you once again, SHAQ WHEN HE WANTS TO FEEL LIKE PLAYING DEFENSE HE WILL. He has never been known to be a good defensive player, with his size and skill he should have won atleast 5 DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR AWARDS, but he ALWAYS QUITS ON DEFENSE, IF HE DOES NOT GET ENOUGH TOUCHES ON THE OFFENSIVE END, HE IS JUST TOO ARROGANT AND PRIDEFUL. and maybe you don't watch Amare enough, but he gets ticky tacky foul calls almost every game because he can't play a lick of defense. And if the Suns starts struggling watch Shaq throw Nash, STAT, and the Head Coach under the bus like he has in Orlando, LA, and now Miami. Typical idiot Cowgirl fan answer. BTW have you watched Shaq this season and last season, the guy is bricking lay ups and missing dunks, he isn't that SAME Shaq that strikes fear into people. HE IS THE REASON why PHX will not win the title, if Amare can't handle playing with Marion and Nash, then let's see if he can handle playing with Shaq. your forgettin tho shaq makes amare games better...even a fat old shaq u still think teams would not double team him...shaq has motivation to play now.he'll be under a microscope....if he sucks he'll know it and everyone else will know shaq is done...some thing he is sayin no to. A fat old shaq is a top 5 center in the game.
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Feb 6, 2008 23:26:39 GMT -5
lol lakers lost to hawks
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