DET-CHA

[Detroit Pistons]

DET/CHA

Det Gives:
80-T.J. Ford-$8,000,000--8,500,000--8,500,000
64-Tony Battie-$5,746,000--6,292,000

Det Gets:
Tor 1st rd.(16th)
Atl 2nd rd.(32nd)
Cha 2009 2nd
68-Sarunas Jasikevicius-$500,000--500,000(TO)

Incoming:$500,000
Outgoing:$13,746,000

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Cha Gives:
Tor 1st rd.(16th)
Atl 2nd rd.(32nd)
Cha 2009 2nd
68-Sarunas Jasikevicius-$500,000--500,000(TO)

Cha Gets:
80-T.J. Ford-$8,000,000--8,500,000--8,500,000
64-Tony Battie-$5,746,000--6,292,000

Incoming:$13,746,000
Outgoing:$500,000

I accept, this offically gives me the cap to sign Dwight, along with getting a mid round 1st and a very early 2nd

[Charlotte Bobcats]

I accept, it's pretty obvious why we both do this trade. This will keep D12 in Detroit for now and I add a nice young PG in Ford that I couldn't have gotten on the FA market more than likely (who wants to be a Bobcat right now?) I know I'm probably the most hated GM in the league right for letting Detroit keep D12 BUT what good did it do me? I wasn't going to get D12 so I took Ford, a player I really like. I took a cap hit and gave up some picks but I def. think it's worth it.

Some people were questioning whither I have the cap space, well i'll show you my Excel spreadsheet since I'm not suppose to edit yet.



I believe that $13,724,492+$500,000=$13,784,492

$13,784,492-$13,746,000=$38,492

So by a little under $40,000 K's, D12 stays in Detroit. Pleasure doing Business with you Detroit and best of luck next year.

[Detroit Pistons]

can we get some votes plz

thanks

[Houston Rockets]

actually Cha your math is a little bit wrong.....

$13,724,492 + $500,000 = $14,224,492

$14,224,492 - $13,746,000 = $478,492

[Charlotte Bobcats]

my cap figure is/was $13,284,492, you can either add that and subtract by total amount gained (from DET) or subtract it from DET's salaries and then subtract it by mine, either way it comes how I said and it works.

[Los Angeles Clippers]

well my first thought on this trade is I would really like for DET to at least get, i dunno, a pretty good bench player (for his team) back in the deal? Right now this is an 80 (paid reasonably well) for a 68, 68 rook, 64 rook, and probably a 64 or lower rook...plus Battie's fairly bad contract.

I know for a fact the Charlotte GM thinks he's getting a steal...and really he is. I have to decide on it still because I know Detroit is doing this only because he wants to sign Dwight. Which is fine. I just have to personally decide if this is an acceptable deal (obviously I know Detroit's motive for doing it...just gotta see if it's still in the realm of acceptability).

For the record, I will not be voting based on my desire for D12. Thank you Cleveland

P.S. I'm basically slightly leaning Accept because I know this is for D12 and that's the only reason...but it wouldn't take much reasoning to push me either way...stay tuned!

[Charlotte Bobcats]

If this is denied it's like cutting Detroit's nuts off, no one with the cap space is going to give him the cap space he needs. Everyone knows D12 will become a FA and everyone wants him.

[Detroit Pistons]

Aug 13, 2008 22:00:35 GMT -5 Los Angeles Clippers said:

well my first thought on this trade is I would really like for DET to at least get, i dunno, a pretty good bench player (for his team) back in the deal? Right now this is an 80 (paid reasonably well) for a 68, 68 rook, 64 rook, and probably a 64 or lower rook...plus Battie's fairly bad contract.

I know for a fact the Charlotte GM thinks he's getting a steal...and really he is. I have to decide on it still because I know Detroit is doing this only because he wants to sign Dwight. Which is fine. I just have to personally decide if this is an acceptable deal (obviously I know Detroit's motive for doing it...just gotta see if it's still in the realm of acceptability).

For the record, I will not be voting based on my desire for D12. Thank you Cleveland

I will vote on the trade tonight or tomorrow though.

2 decently high picks isnt bad imo
plus i get rif of a horendous contract

[Los Angeles Clippers]

As true as that would be, I wouldn't reject in order to cut his nuts off! haha I would reject if I don't think the deal is ok.

[Detroit Pistons]

so, so far it 0-0

can we plz get some votes on this!! thanks

[Charlotte Bobcats]

if anyone is saying otherwise, my salary chart is updated from the CLE and PHI trades. That is the only ones that have been approved.

[New Orleans Hornets]

i dont know

would have to see the other insights of the CM before i make a decision

[Detroit Pistons]

Aug 15, 2008 0:06:15 GMT -5 New Orleans Hornets said:

i dont know

would have to see the other insights of the CM before i make a decision

i really dont get all the hesitation on this trade
whats unfair about it

[Philadelphia 76ers]

I'll accept

No brainer for Detroit as he gets cap space to re-sign D12. Charlotte, although taking on a lot of cap gets a talented PG who can play his system.

[Detroit Pistons]

ok so, its 1-0 after 3 days

i really need this trade to be voted on sense it involves the 16th pick

[Utah Jazz]

Chill, I don't think it's necessary to have 3 posts in the thread telling CM's to vote. When people do that, it makes me want to vote for the trade less. And the 16th pick is still awhile's away.

[Detroit Pistons]

Aug 15, 2008 14:46:43 GMT -5 Utah Jazz said:

Chill, I don't think it's necessary to have 3 posts in the thread telling CM's to vote. When people do that, it makes me want to vote for the trade less. And the 16th pick is still awhile's away.

well sry im just kinda ancy, 1 cm said he would vote 2 days ago or yesterday and never did and NOH just said ill wait to eee what other cms say, i mean no offence but it just really wanna get this done so i can post other trades

[Oklahoma City Thunder]

Ill accept

[Los Angeles Clippers]

Basically Detroit has to do this deal because of poor cap management basically. He has to make an absolutely terrible deal because he didn't plan correctly previously. If I accept I'd feel like I'm encouraging people to not think about next year at all and the can just make a terrible trade for their team to clear out cap.
Then again, maybe it's punishment to have to make a terrible trade?

[Los Angeles Clippers]

I don't like the deal at all, obviously...kinda hate it, but

I'll accept. Just wish people would plan ahead a bit more and not put themselves in a situation to have to move a really good player for basically nothing other than Cap Space, which they need because they screwed up before....

Tisk Tisk.