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Post by raps03 - TOR on Jun 23, 2008 12:16:38 GMT -5
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Post by Utah Jazz on Jun 23, 2008 13:00:08 GMT -5
Both teams taking a risk with Ford and Jermaine respectively. Bosh/O'Neal frontline would be prettty sick though if Jermaine stayed healthy.
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Post by corey - NYK/CHA on Jun 23, 2008 13:07:53 GMT -5
Still nothing more than talk. Don't get too excited if you're a Toronto fan.
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Post by Philadelphia 76ers on Jun 23, 2008 13:27:03 GMT -5
Oh god. I hope not. JO is old, can't stay healthy, expensive and not to mention he sucks when he's healthy
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Post by Memphis Grizzlies on Jun 23, 2008 13:36:19 GMT -5
i didn't think 29 was old or that 20 and 10 sucked but the other 2 statements i agree
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Post by Philadelphia 76ers on Jun 23, 2008 13:45:14 GMT -5
By old, I meant his best years has passed him. Plus he put up 13, 6 this season.
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Post by Philadelphia 76ers on Jun 23, 2008 13:48:34 GMT -5
So it's gonna be
Rasho (8 mil expiring, 13,7 down the stretch), Ford and our first rounder (17th)
for
JO
Hope our first rounder is not packaged with the Ford and Rasho
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Post by raps03 - TOR on Jun 23, 2008 13:54:38 GMT -5
it will be
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Post by Los Angeles Lakers on Jun 23, 2008 23:18:38 GMT -5
for IND this deal is a must, also they GOTTA get rid of Tinsley for anything.
as for TOR, yeah they are overpaying but this is better then the PHX deal, some people actually think SF is a weakness for TOR, I disagree.
they have Joey Graham, Jamario Moon and Jason Kapono playing that position so that position is pretty loaded.
I'd worry about SG, C, and back-up PG right now, I tihnk they can get a back-up PG and a C.
SG might be a problem though, Anthony Parker is gonna be a FA after this season and he is getting a lucrative deal from Europe again, so he might bail on the Raptors like that wimp Garbajosa and Navarro (atleast Pau's tough enough to stay here.)
this deal makes a WHOLE lot of sense for TOR even if JO does not play C and Bosh is forced to play at Center.
I mean injured JO>>>>>>>>> Bargnani, I am sorry but it's a F*cking joke that Bargnani puts up 12 PPG and 4 RPG, hell if that's the case Kandiman or Kwame would be a better fit, atleast they would help defensively since they got a good amount of Offense.
even if guys like Dirk, Pau, and Yao are soft and can't play good defense atleast THEY CAN TRY to get some rebounds and HUSTLE, Bargnani does not even do that.
he is too busy dancing around the perimeter and refuses to rebound the ball.
if that's the case then one of 2 things must be done.
1. trade him for ANYTHING 2. move him to PF and Bosh to Center, and get a BIG SF that can play down low like a Shawn Marion type player (not him cause they ain't getting him.) that is 6' 9 or 6'10 that can grab boards.
that type of SF would help a lot with moving Bargs to PF.
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Post by Denver Nuggets on Jun 24, 2008 0:16:28 GMT -5
the talks for this deal is pretty much dead. Both teams are worried bout inuries from ford and jo. But if this deal happens f**k boston toronto is the real atlantic champs.
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Post by Philadelphia 76ers on Jun 24, 2008 8:15:11 GMT -5
for IND this deal is a must, also they GOTTA get rid of Tinsley for anything. as for TOR, yeah they are overpaying but this is better then the PHX deal, some people actually think SF is a weakness for TOR, I disagree. they have Joey Graham, Jamario Moon and Jason Kapono playing that position so that position is pretty loaded. I'd worry about SG, C, and back-up PG right now, I tihnk they can get a back-up PG and a C. SG might be a problem though, Anthony Parker is gonna be a FA after this season and he is getting a lucrative deal from Europe again, so he might bail on the Raptors like that wimp Garbajosa and Navarro (atleast Pau's tough enough to stay here.) this deal makes a WHOLE lot of sense for TOR even if JO does not play C and Bosh is forced to play at Center. SF is a weakness for us. Graham is a scrub, he has all the tools to be the athletic SF we need but consistently falls in love with the J. Sometimes I wonder if it's his brother Stephan on the court. Kapono is better suited coming off the bench to create a spark, again he's another shooter. Moon is probably the closest to what we need for SF but he needs a year or two to develop. Right now, we're still a jumpshooting team and a athletic slashing SF (Maggette) would do wonders for this team
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Post by raps03 - TOR on Jun 24, 2008 10:11:12 GMT -5
but we need help in REB, you saw how we lost so many games becuase of that, if we can get JO our team will have great REB with him and bosh
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Post by raps03 - TOR on Jun 25, 2008 20:35:20 GMT -5
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Post by corey - NYK/CHA on Jun 25, 2008 20:49:11 GMT -5
I'd be more worried than anything else. His injury background doesn't exactly excite me if I'm a Raptors fan.
If he's healthy, the tandem of Bosh and JO is going to be really good, but it's still a big IF.
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Post by Denver Nuggets on Jun 25, 2008 22:07:57 GMT -5
god damn we gonig to that championship...washed up or not jo will help this team. funny part is hiscontract is up in 2010...21+mill cap space...lebron james
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