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Post by Oklahoma City Thunder on Dec 13, 2007 7:22:03 GMT -5
Today we finally get to hear the names of the playes who have been caught using roids.
They are supposed to announce at around 1 and th3e coverage on ESPN is from 1-6.
Cant wait to see who gets caught.
Post 3 guys that haven't been announced already that you think will be caught today.
I will go with: Scott Rolen Mark Prior Austin Kearns
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Dec 13, 2007 7:29:03 GMT -5
Richie Sexson Mike Lowell Gary Sheffield
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Post by Utah Jazz on Dec 13, 2007 9:16:20 GMT -5
Lance Berkman Adrian Gonzalez Mike Piazza
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Post by Utah Jazz on Dec 13, 2007 11:47:38 GMT -5
Admitted Users (17) Ken Caminiti - Steroids Barry Bonds - Steroids Bobby Estalella - Steroids and hGH Jason Giambi - Steroids and hGH Jeremy Giambi - Steroids Armando Rios - Steroids and hGH Benito Santiago - Steroids and hGH Gary Sheffield - Steroids Jose Canseco - Steroids and hGH Tom House - Steroids Wally Joyner - Steroids Paxton Crawford - Steroids and hGH Jason Grimsley - Steroids and hGH Jim Leyritz - hGH David Segui - hGH John Rocker - hGH Paul Byrd - hGH Implicated Players (29) Mark McGwire - Steroids Manny Alexander - Steroids Chuck Finley - Steroids Marvin Bernard - Steroids and hGH Randy Velarde - Steroids Wilson Alvarez - Steroids and hGH Bret Boone - Steroids Ozzie Canseco - Steroids Juan Gonzalez - Steroids and hGH Dave Martinez - Steroids Ivan Rodriguez - Steroids and hGH Tony Saunders - Steroids and hGH Miguel Tejada - Steroids Lenny Dykstra - Steroids and hGH Dave Hollins - Steroids Roger Clemens - "PE Drugs" Andy Pettitte - "PE Drugs" Brian Roberts - Steroids Jay Gibbons - Steroids Gary Matthews Jr. - hGH Jerry Hairston Jr. - hGH David Bell - hCG Darren Holmes - Steroids and hGH Rick Ankiel - hGH Troy Glaus - Steroids Scott Schoeneweis - Steroids Matt Williams - Steroids and HGH Jose Guillen - Steroids and HGH Ismael Valdez - Steroids MLB Posiive Tests (16) Alex Sanchez - Unknown Jorge Piedra - Unknown Agustin Montero - Unknown Jamal Strong - Unknown Juan Rincon - Unknown Rafael Betancourt - Unknown Rafael Palmeiro - Stanzolol (Steroid) Ryan Franklin - Unknown Mike Morse - Unknown Carlos Almanzar - Unknown Felix Heredia - Unknown Matt Lawton - Boldenone (Steroid) Yusaku Iriki - Unknown Guillermo Mota - Unknown Juan Salas - Unknown Dan Serafini - Unknown Non-MLB Positive Tests (2) Termel Sledge - Precursor (Andro) Derrick Turnbow - Precursor (Andro) and another 15 or so names he mentioned later Albert Pujols Mo Vaughn Darryl Kile Trot Nixon Jason Varitek Mark Prior Kerry Wood Brady Anderson Albert Belle Johnny Damon Carl Everett Kyle Farnsoworth Ryan Franklin Troy Glaus Eric Gagne Nomar Garciaparra Not official, got this off a poster from RealGM. www.realgm.com/boards/baseball/viewtopic.php?t=5869
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Post by Oklahoma City Thunder on Dec 13, 2007 14:11:08 GMT -5
mitchell press conference on ESPN right now, for those of you interested
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Post by Utah Jazz on Dec 13, 2007 14:32:12 GMT -5
I'm interested, but at school. I only care about who's been "cheating", and I could probably find a list when I feel like it.
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Post by raps03 - TOR on Dec 13, 2007 18:05:27 GMT -5
wow, coming from a jays fan, zaun was one of them thats pretty shcoking imo and now this explains so much about Roger Clemens, when he was with the jays
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Post by Atlanta Hawks on Dec 13, 2007 22:33:00 GMT -5
Mo Vaughn was surprising to me. Who knew he even had muscles?
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Post by Utah Jazz on Dec 14, 2007 10:19:40 GMT -5
Mo Vaughn was surprising to me. Who knew he even had muscles? Brian Roberts isn't too strong either, but don't 'roids make you faster too?
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Post by Oklahoma City Thunder on Dec 14, 2007 13:12:58 GMT -5
yea roids improve you in many ways athletically.
Im kinda upset, because the Cubs were in discussion with the O's about Roberts. The deal for him to come to Chi-town was just about done. Now you need 5to look at this a little harder and check your self. Do the Cubs really want to be linked with Roberts now that he has been mentioned in the report? I for one would look into it real hard.
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Post by hardballer1 - NYK on Dec 14, 2007 13:53:37 GMT -5
i was suprised to see clemens even though he was under suscpicion for the pine tar incedent.....
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Post by raps03 - TOR on Dec 14, 2007 16:19:55 GMT -5
yea roids improve you in many ways athletically. Im kinda upset, because the Cubs were in discussion with the O's about Roberts. The deal for him to come to Chi-town was just about done. Now you need 5to look at this a little harder and check your self. Do the Cubs really want to be linked with Roberts now that he has been mentioned in the report? I for one would look into it real hard. really? do u remember who might be going to O's
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Post by Oklahoma City Thunder on Dec 14, 2007 16:22:43 GMT -5
3 prospects. Right Fielder Matt Murton, Pitcher Sean Gallagher, & Pitcher Donald Veal
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Post by Los Angeles Lakers on Dec 14, 2007 18:23:45 GMT -5
you know this Mitchell Report is nothing is more then a scam nothing more.
we already knew about some of the places the players got their steroid from.
he used Balco players, the NY case with the Pharmaceutical,
the only real person he got dirt on was from Radmomski, but he was under fire from the feds too.
So really it's the feds that busted the players not Mitchell.
Some of Mitchell's dirt was from Canceco's book too.
And Canseco was even there to talk to Mitchell, maybe he should have pretended to be a reporter of the New York Times.
So basically we were just RE-ITERATED the same old story about steroids, except Mitchell putting new twist to it with players name and giving players leniancy.
I won't be surprised if Clemens sues Mitchell for this.
Did you guys hear that Canseco said he was surprised A-Rod was not on the list, man Canseco must be desparate to get A-Rod busted, maybe it's more personal between them more then we thought it would be.
One more thing, I wish people understand that Steroids do not make you stronger on it's own.
if you have a great workout regiment and you use steroids then you will look bulked up.
even if you have hand-eyes coordination and steroids, but if you don't work out then it doesn't matter the steroids aren't gonna help you.
steroids just doesn't bulk you up.
with workout regiment, hand-eye coordination, and steroid then you have a guy who is bulked and truely juiced.
but other then that Steroid changes the form of your overall body, it makes you last longer and makes you fast and that's about it.
also it helps you stay in condition if you have in breathing symtoms or other kinds od diseases.
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Post by Utah Jazz on Dec 14, 2007 23:07:53 GMT -5
Nice job by the MLB to "draw" away attention from all that with the Dan Haren trade. The Diamondbacks are going to be good this coming year. The Clemens thing is still big though, gonna be hard to skip pass that.
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Post by raps03 - TOR on Dec 14, 2007 23:11:29 GMT -5
yeah no1 is going to forget about this one. i wonder how he is feeling right now, with all of this going on
and also yeah that was a huge trade the A's made. also the d-backs traded away there closer, so now im wondering who is there closer?
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Post by Atlanta Hawks on Dec 15, 2007 19:33:31 GMT -5
Hasn't ARod done a Barry Bonds and put on like 30 or 40 pounds since he's been in NY or at least since he left Seattle. He looks a lot bigger and got there a lot faster than Bonds did (still don't see how adding 50 pounds in 20+ years means he took steroids).
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Post by dagr81 - MIN on Dec 15, 2007 23:18:48 GMT -5
anyone here read Game of Shadows? I did and it was a pretty interesting read.
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Post by Atlanta Hawks on Dec 16, 2007 0:24:18 GMT -5
Yeah, with all of their "sources".
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