Post by Los Angeles Lakers on Dec 7, 2007 18:29:41 GMT -5
My friend in school is argueing that the Celtics is the best team in the East right now and will win the East and KG is the best big men in the NBA.
I argued with him the Magics owned the Celts so they are better, and they will soon get exposed as frauds and will not dominate the NBA anymore.
But here is the real question, he argues that KG is a better player then Duncan and Dirk, and he believes KG carried a team while Duncan didn't which is absolutely un-heard of because before Duncan came San Antonio had 0 rings, regardless of whether David Robinson was injured in 96 or 97 and then SAS ended up in the lottery.
So I'll post the stats and awards they won and let you guys decided.
Candidate one Tim Duncan
Awards
USBWA College Player of the Year
(1997)
Naismith College Player of the Year
(1997)
John Wooden Award
(1997)
ACC Player of the Year
(1996, 1997)
NBA Rookie of the Year
(1998)
NBA MVP
(2002, 2003)
NBA Finals MVP
(1999, 2003, 2005)
NBA Champion
(1999, 2003, 2005, 2007)
NBA All-Star Game MVP
(2000 Co-MVP)
Regular season
Team GP MPG SPG BPG RPG APG PPG FG% 3P% FT%
1997–98 San Antonio 82 39.1 0.7 2.5 11.9 2.7 21.1 0.549 0.000 0.662
1998–99 San Antonio 50 39.3 0.9 2.5 11.4 2.4 21.7 0.495 0.143 0.690
1999–2000 San Antonio 74 38.9 0.9 2.2 12.4 3.2 23.2 0.490 0.091 0.761
2000–01 San Antonio 82 38.7 0.8 2.3 12.2 3.0 22.2 0.499 0.259 0.618
2001–02 San Antonio 82 40.6 0.7 2.5 12.7 3.7 25.5 0.508 0.100 0.799
2002–03 San Antonio 81 39.3 0.7 2.9 12.9 3.9 23.3 0.513 0.273 0.710
2003–04 San Antonio 69 36.6 0.9 2.7 12.4 3.1 22.3 0.501 0.167 0.599
2004–05 San Antonio 66 33.4 0.7 2.6 11.1 2.7 20.3 0.496 0.333 0.670
2005–06 San Antonio 80 34.8 0.9 2.0 11.0 3.2 18.6 0.484 0.400 0.629
2006–07 San Antonio 80 34.1 0.8 2.4 10.6 3.4 20.0 0.546 0.111 0.637
2007–08 San Antonio 14 32.9 0.9 2.0 9.4 2.7 18.8 0.538 0.000 0.721
Career average 37.4 0.8 2.4 11.8 3.2 21.8 0.509 0.195 0.681
Career total 760 28,427 608 1868 8998 2403 16551
All-Star 9 24.7 0.8 0.7 11.7 2.7 13.4 0.607 0.500 0.800
Playoffs
Team GP MPG SPG BPG RPG APG PPG FG% 3P% FT%
1997–98 San Antonio 9 41.6 0.6 2.6 9.0 1.9 20.7 0.521 0.000 0.667
1998–99 San Antonio 17 43.1 0.8 2.6 11.5 2.8 23.2 0.511 0.000 0.748
2000–01 San Antonio 13 40.5 1.1 2.7 14.5 3.8 24.4 0.488 1.000 0.639
2001–02 San Antonio 9 42.2 0.7 4.3 14.4 5.0 27.6 0.453 0.333 0.822
2002–03 San Antonio 24 42.5 0.6 3.3 15.4 5.3 24.7 0.529 0.000 0.677
2003–04 San Antonio 10 40.5 0.8 2.0 11.3 3.2 22.1 0.522 0.000 0.632
2004–05 San Antonio 23 37.8 0.4 2.3 12.4 2.7 23.6 0.464 0.200 0.717
2005–06 San Antonio 13 37.9 0.8 1.9 10.5 3.3 25.8 0.573 0.000 0.718
2006–07 San Antonio 20 36.9 0.7 3.1 11.5 3.3 22.2 0.521 0.000 0.644
Career average 40.1 0.7 2.8 12.5 3.5 23.8 0.507 0.130 0.697
Career total 138 5537 93 380 1728 489 3282
I argued with him the Magics owned the Celts so they are better, and they will soon get exposed as frauds and will not dominate the NBA anymore.
But here is the real question, he argues that KG is a better player then Duncan and Dirk, and he believes KG carried a team while Duncan didn't which is absolutely un-heard of because before Duncan came San Antonio had 0 rings, regardless of whether David Robinson was injured in 96 or 97 and then SAS ended up in the lottery.
So I'll post the stats and awards they won and let you guys decided.
Candidate one Tim Duncan
Awards
USBWA College Player of the Year
(1997)
Naismith College Player of the Year
(1997)
John Wooden Award
(1997)
ACC Player of the Year
(1996, 1997)
NBA Rookie of the Year
(1998)
NBA MVP
(2002, 2003)
NBA Finals MVP
(1999, 2003, 2005)
NBA Champion
(1999, 2003, 2005, 2007)
NBA All-Star Game MVP
(2000 Co-MVP)
Regular season
Team GP MPG SPG BPG RPG APG PPG FG% 3P% FT%
1997–98 San Antonio 82 39.1 0.7 2.5 11.9 2.7 21.1 0.549 0.000 0.662
1998–99 San Antonio 50 39.3 0.9 2.5 11.4 2.4 21.7 0.495 0.143 0.690
1999–2000 San Antonio 74 38.9 0.9 2.2 12.4 3.2 23.2 0.490 0.091 0.761
2000–01 San Antonio 82 38.7 0.8 2.3 12.2 3.0 22.2 0.499 0.259 0.618
2001–02 San Antonio 82 40.6 0.7 2.5 12.7 3.7 25.5 0.508 0.100 0.799
2002–03 San Antonio 81 39.3 0.7 2.9 12.9 3.9 23.3 0.513 0.273 0.710
2003–04 San Antonio 69 36.6 0.9 2.7 12.4 3.1 22.3 0.501 0.167 0.599
2004–05 San Antonio 66 33.4 0.7 2.6 11.1 2.7 20.3 0.496 0.333 0.670
2005–06 San Antonio 80 34.8 0.9 2.0 11.0 3.2 18.6 0.484 0.400 0.629
2006–07 San Antonio 80 34.1 0.8 2.4 10.6 3.4 20.0 0.546 0.111 0.637
2007–08 San Antonio 14 32.9 0.9 2.0 9.4 2.7 18.8 0.538 0.000 0.721
Career average 37.4 0.8 2.4 11.8 3.2 21.8 0.509 0.195 0.681
Career total 760 28,427 608 1868 8998 2403 16551
All-Star 9 24.7 0.8 0.7 11.7 2.7 13.4 0.607 0.500 0.800
Playoffs
Team GP MPG SPG BPG RPG APG PPG FG% 3P% FT%
1997–98 San Antonio 9 41.6 0.6 2.6 9.0 1.9 20.7 0.521 0.000 0.667
1998–99 San Antonio 17 43.1 0.8 2.6 11.5 2.8 23.2 0.511 0.000 0.748
2000–01 San Antonio 13 40.5 1.1 2.7 14.5 3.8 24.4 0.488 1.000 0.639
2001–02 San Antonio 9 42.2 0.7 4.3 14.4 5.0 27.6 0.453 0.333 0.822
2002–03 San Antonio 24 42.5 0.6 3.3 15.4 5.3 24.7 0.529 0.000 0.677
2003–04 San Antonio 10 40.5 0.8 2.0 11.3 3.2 22.1 0.522 0.000 0.632
2004–05 San Antonio 23 37.8 0.4 2.3 12.4 2.7 23.6 0.464 0.200 0.717
2005–06 San Antonio 13 37.9 0.8 1.9 10.5 3.3 25.8 0.573 0.000 0.718
2006–07 San Antonio 20 36.9 0.7 3.1 11.5 3.3 22.2 0.521 0.000 0.644
Career average 40.1 0.7 2.8 12.5 3.5 23.8 0.507 0.130 0.697
Career total 138 5537 93 380 1728 489 3282