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PHI/SAS
Dec 1, 2007 22:16:36 GMT -5
Post by Philadelphia 76ers on Dec 1, 2007 22:16:36 GMT -5
76ers trade:
84 SF Josh Smith $2,243,543 69 C Lorenzo Wright $3,250,000 63 PG Kevin Ollie-$3,441,900 08 PHI FIRST ROUNDER
76ers recieve:
80 C Marcus Camby $9,000,000 81 PG Mike Bibby $13,500,000---$14,500,000 58 C Mile Ilic $850,000 Total Outgoing: $8,935,443 Total Incoming: $23,350,000
Spurs trade:
80 C Marcus Camby $9,000,000 81 PG Mike Bibby $13,500,000---$14,500,000 58 C Mile Ilic $850,000 Spurs Recieve:
84 SF Josh Smith $2,243,543 69 C Lorenzo Wright $3,250,000 63 PG Kevin Ollie-$3,441,900 08 PHI FIRST ROUNDER
Total Incoming: $8,935,443 Total Outgoing:$23,350,000
I accept, I gain two stars who will help me contend for the championship. I lose a young superstar in Josh Smith but I probably won't have had enough cap to re-sign him next summer.
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PHI/SAS
Dec 1, 2007 22:17:39 GMT -5
Post by Detroit Pistons on Dec 1, 2007 22:17:39 GMT -5
i think sa could get more
its basically 2 stars for 1
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PHI/SAS
Dec 2, 2007 15:44:32 GMT -5
Post by Oklahoma City Thunder on Dec 2, 2007 15:44:32 GMT -5
waiting on SAS
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PHI/SAS
Dec 2, 2007 15:47:59 GMT -5
Post by corey - NYK/CHA on Dec 2, 2007 15:47:59 GMT -5
What about projected salaries?
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PHI/SAS
Dec 2, 2007 15:59:46 GMT -5
Post by hardballer1 - NYK on Dec 2, 2007 15:59:46 GMT -5
i accept. i get a young star and a first round pick as well as two good players and i lose ALOT of cap which could help with signing fa's.
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PHI/SAS
Dec 2, 2007 16:11:39 GMT -5
Post by Oklahoma City Thunder on Dec 2, 2007 16:11:39 GMT -5
I reject. Also a note, Camby's rating is going up to either 82 or 83. Just to let you guys know.
SAS is giving up a lot for Josh Smith in my opinion. He gets cap space but, there are no free agents worth signing with the money you are saving.
I am only 1 vote so, don't get your hopes down. This is a trade that could go either way.
I reject
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PHI/SAS
Dec 2, 2007 17:46:05 GMT -5
Post by Philadelphia 76ers on Dec 2, 2007 17:46:05 GMT -5
He doesn't necessarily need to spend it all this season, he can save it up for next offseasons FA which is going to be pretty strong
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PHI/SAS
Dec 2, 2007 18:22:11 GMT -5
Post by frankg90 - CHA on Dec 2, 2007 18:22:11 GMT -5
i accept....it is true what philly said that he doesnt need to spend it all this offseason. and also he gets rid of bibby's contract which is extremely large. he also gets a 1st round pick that should be very high
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PHI/SAS
Dec 2, 2007 18:29:57 GMT -5
Post by raps03 - TOR on Dec 2, 2007 18:29:57 GMT -5
i no my vote doesnt count by how would this help SAS? yeah josh smith great player, can maybe be worth Camby but now bibby (81) for 69 C Lorenzo Wright, and, 63 Kevin Ollie doesnt seem right. yeah theres a first rounder, but by the way the 76ers are going, that pick will be down into the 20's at least. Bibby, Miller, Camby, KG, WOW, you are not going to get a high pick and get a person who is ranked 65 or so. hell 76ers is doing amazing and if this trades goes, imo SAS unless KG and Bibby get hurt and tore there ACL in the sim game , this trade wont help ALSO remember josh smith becomes a FA next year, and knowing the player agents, Josh Smith is young and good = money, money, moneeeey!!!!
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PHI/SAS
Dec 2, 2007 19:17:12 GMT -5
Post by Utah Jazz on Dec 2, 2007 19:17:12 GMT -5
What about projected salaries? You don't need those.. I reject. From what I see, it's an 84 for an 80 and 81. The other guys really don't matter IMO. A starter and 3 bench guys for 2 solid starters and a bench player. The 1st will be really low too b/c Philly would then have Camby, Garnett, and Bibby.
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PHI/SAS
Dec 2, 2007 19:43:08 GMT -5
Post by Philadelphia 76ers on Dec 2, 2007 19:43:08 GMT -5
i no my vote doesnt count by how would this help SAS? yeah josh smith great player, can maybe be worth Camby but now bibby (81) for 69 C Lorenzo Wright, and, 63 Kevin Ollie doesnt seem right. yeah theres a first rounder, but by the way the 76ers are going, that pick will be down into the 20's at least. Bibby, Miller, Camby, KG, WOW, you are not going to get a high pick and get a person who is ranked 65 or so. hell 76ers is doing amazing and if this trades goes, imo SAS unless KG and Bibby get hurt and tore there ACL in the sim game , this trade wont help ALSO remember josh smith becomes a FA next year, and knowing the player agents, Josh Smith is young and good = money, money, moneeeey!!!! Smith >>> Camby. Smith is rated four points higher, 7 mil cheaper, younger. Bibby makes up the gap. The cap space he would be getting rid of would give him more than enough money to re-sign JSmoove. Right now I have a weak bench and if this trade goes through, not alot of cap to spend. So theres still a chance the pick can be a top 15 in very strong draft.
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PHI/SAS
Dec 2, 2007 19:47:43 GMT -5
Post by Los Angeles Clippers on Dec 2, 2007 19:47:43 GMT -5
I think Camby's rating should and will go up, Bibby's rating won't go far either way, but I wouldn't mind seeing it go down...but then I'd like to see Smith's rating jump to an 86-88 myself. He's very young and very good. I accept the trade regardless or ratings changes though. Salary saved and Smiths youth and potential are big factors.
Accept.
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PHI/SAS
Dec 2, 2007 19:49:19 GMT -5
Post by Detroit Pistons on Dec 2, 2007 19:49:19 GMT -5
when i think about this with that cap sa might be able to get a staring pg in williams
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PHI/SAS
Dec 2, 2007 19:55:50 GMT -5
Post by Philadelphia 76ers on Dec 2, 2007 19:55:50 GMT -5
when i think about this with that cap sa might be able to get a staring pg in williams Exactly Williams- Davis- Brewer- Smith- FA/Wright Not bad for a rebuilding team
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PHI/SAS
Dec 2, 2007 21:09:27 GMT -5
Post by hardballer1 - NYK on Dec 2, 2007 21:09:27 GMT -5
thank you
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PHI/SAS
Dec 3, 2007 19:22:35 GMT -5
Post by Orlando Magic on Dec 3, 2007 19:22:35 GMT -5
i reject, i think bibby and camby can get much more then smith...despite smith being great! dont get me wrong but i think SAS is giving up too much especially with the rating changes. sorry
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PHI/SAS
Dec 3, 2007 19:22:43 GMT -5
Post by Chicago Bulls on Dec 3, 2007 19:22:43 GMT -5
I honestly think Bibby and Camby are both overrated so I would accept it bit I want to think it over first.
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PHI/SAS
Dec 3, 2007 21:26:59 GMT -5
Post by Philadelphia 76ers on Dec 3, 2007 21:26:59 GMT -5
Dang, this is intense
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PHI/SAS
Dec 3, 2007 22:06:10 GMT -5
Post by Chicago Bulls on Dec 3, 2007 22:06:10 GMT -5
SA is giving up two aging good players for a young great player and some depth, to me thats a fair deal.
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PHI/SAS
Dec 3, 2007 22:48:20 GMT -5
Post by New Orleans Hornets on Dec 3, 2007 22:48:20 GMT -5
but the depth thats coming along with Josh smith are 2 aging role players
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