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Post by Detroit Pistons on Apr 14, 2010 20:25:10 GMT -5
This is just to get some activity going in the league again. Everyone post in this format. You can post multiple players.
Best Signing: Worst Signing: Most Underrated Signing:
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Apr 14, 2010 20:30:16 GMT -5
Best Signing:Shawn Marion(HOU) Worst Signing:Rashard Lewis(BOS) Most Underrated Signing:Jason Kidd(LAL)
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Post by Los Angeles Lakers on Apr 14, 2010 22:14:02 GMT -5
Best Signing: Shawn Marion (HOU) Worst Signing: Mike Bibby (ATL) Most Underrated Signing: Jarrett Jack (DEN)
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Post by Cleveland Cavaliers on Apr 15, 2010 21:22:18 GMT -5
Best Signing: Jason Kidd (LAL) Worst Signing: Mike Bibby (ATL) Most Underrated Signing: Channing Frye (CLE)
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Post by Houston Rockets on Apr 16, 2010 8:42:40 GMT -5
Best Signing: Baron Davis (ORL) Worst Signing: Rashard Lewis (BOS) Most Underrated Signing: Marcin Gortat (PHI)
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Post by Charlotte Bobcats on Apr 16, 2010 9:26:00 GMT -5
I think I clearly lost
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Post by sniper on Apr 16, 2010 15:58:26 GMT -5
Best Signing: Jason Kidd Worst Signing: Mike Bibby Rashard Lewis Underrated Signing:Rasheed Wallace
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Post by Atlanta Hawks on Apr 16, 2010 19:16:55 GMT -5
Um...how is Bibby the worst signing? I desperately needed a more true point guard until Holiday can take over. Plus, with Bibby starting my bench is deeper and I still have 18 million coming off the books next year.
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Post by Boston Celtics on Apr 16, 2010 19:26:09 GMT -5
Kind of funny that Marion is the best signing. His numbers have dropped big time since leaving Phoenix. His entire game is based off of his athleticism, so it is no surprise at 30+ his numbers have gone down like they have. Not sure how signing him to 5 years is a good idea, that imo would qualify as one of the worst signings.
even Davis's numbers have declined over the past few seasons. I guess people like declining players for some reasons.
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Apr 16, 2010 20:03:29 GMT -5
I just like Marion for the team, not so much the contract.
Lewis just scares me cuz he is only putting up 14 and 4 this year
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Post by Denver Nuggets on Apr 16, 2010 20:13:08 GMT -5
Best Signing: Kidd Lal...give them a damn good team Worst Signing:(Bobcats did do much lol ) but for sake of this award goes to Boston..Lewis got paid Most Underrated Signing: Denver Jarret Jack
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Post by Boston Celtics on Apr 16, 2010 22:25:43 GMT -5
I understand people saying Lewis is the worst signing as I did over pay for him. I just think people are over valuing Marion a little bit. He isn't the same player he used to be.
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Post by Denver Nuggets on Apr 16, 2010 22:31:51 GMT -5
I understand people saying Lewis is the worst signing as I did over pay for him. I just think people are over valuing Marion a little bit. He isn't the same player he used to be. I do think marion signing is the same as lewis its just lewis got paid more. If it was even salary Marion would be my choice.
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Post by sniper on Apr 16, 2010 23:16:07 GMT -5
Um...how is Bibby the worst signing? I desperately needed a more true point guard until Holiday can take over. Plus, with Bibby starting my bench is deeper and I still have 18 million coming off the books next year. I felt this way since to me you overpaid for the guy. In the Bibby thread there was Cleveland offering a 2 year 17 million deal contract, LA offering a 3 year 15 million deal contract and then you came out of nowhere and offered a 4 year 42 million deal contract. In which the player agent right away accepted since there was 25 million dollars separating you and the other teams. Would have been a great signing for less money, maybe a deal like what Kidd got. Kidd is an 83 and Bibby is a 78, though Bibby got the better deal.
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Post by sniper on Apr 16, 2010 23:29:13 GMT -5
I understand people saying Lewis is the worst signing as I did over pay for him. I just think people are over valuing Marion a little bit. He isn't the same player he used to be. Lewis isn't the same that he used to be either, Marion and Lewis both have similar ratings at 84 and 85. They both have around the same stats with Marion averaging 12 PPG and 6.4 RPG and with Lewis averaging 14.1 PPG and 4.4 RPG. They both will still be very good in the sim engine. Now the Rockets got Marion for 20 million dollars cheaper then you got Lewis. Looking at that Marion looks like a good signing to me.
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Post by Boston Celtics on Apr 17, 2010 0:20:09 GMT -5
Don't really agree with your statement at all. Marions game is all athleticism, Lewis actaully has a solid skill set. Players like Marion don't play well in their older age. Looking at stats isn't always a good way to compare players, and this is a perfect example.
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Post by sniper on Apr 17, 2010 23:01:59 GMT -5
Don't really agree with your statement at all. Marions game is all athleticism, Lewis actaully has a solid skill set. Players like Marion don't play well in their older age. Looking at stats isn't always a good way to compare players, and this is a perfect example. Yes I agree, they both are completely different players, but you are saying that Marion is declining when Rashard is also. Rashard will be better then Marion over the next couple of years for sure, but I just think Marion could have made you a contender too and also have a cheaper price tag.
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Post by Boston Celtics on Apr 18, 2010 0:56:37 GMT -5
Lewis is no longer a go to guy like he was earlier in his career with Seattle. The last 7 years he took anywhere between 1,000-1,200 field goal attempts. This year he took 805 field goal attempts. It is true that his over all field goal percentage is down from his career averages, but not by a huge amount that would indicate a player on the downside of his career, and his 3 point percentage was right on par with his career averages. So the dip in scoring can be easily explained by a lack of field goal attempts. The rebounding can also be easily explained. First reason would be Dwight Howard, the man is a beast, and the best rebounder in the game, combine that with the fact Lewis was never a great rebounder to begin with, and you get low rebounding numbers. So I wouldn't really say that Lewis is a declining player.
However, having watched Marion play for the Suns here in Phoenix for the majority of his career, it is very obvious his game isn't what it once was. And the athleticism that his entire game is centered around is only going to continue to decrease with each season. Marion may look like a better signing now, but I would wonder how you would feel about that in the later years of the contract when his in his mid 30's.
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Post by Houston Rockets on Apr 18, 2010 15:07:06 GMT -5
I dont really see how this is much of an argument to be honest.... Lewis and Marion have similar ratings, similar numbers in real life, and are similar in age. However, Marion was signed for 20 million dollars less..... whats the argument here again?
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