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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Feb 12, 2010 23:59:06 GMT -5
mcbeast, here.. i'll show you some things..
#1 Heavyweight Fighter in the World: Fedor Emelianenko-STRIKEFORCE 2. Brock Lesnar 3. Frank Mir 4. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira 5. Cain Velasquez 6. Junior Dos Santos 7. Brett Rogers-STRKEFORCE 8. Shane Carwin 9. Alistair Overeem-STRIKEFORCE 10. Fabricio Werdum-STRIKEFORCE
Light Heavyweight has 1, that'd be Gegard Moussasi at number 6.
Middleweight has 2 and Sengoku has 1.
Welterweight has one..
Lightweight they have a few but ... Dream has 5
You can also say they have women who could legit whoops some of these mens asses too..
I'm not saying they're better than UFC.. I'm saying Strikeforce has some fighters, especially in HW who can make a difference.
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Post by Golden State Warriors on Feb 13, 2010 0:05:37 GMT -5
Just because a place is full of prospects doesnt mean their good. They have the POTENTIAL to be good. NBA D-League teams are full of prospects.
Fedor has fought once in Strikeforce so you cant really claim him like that as he was number one before signing with them. And if I recall Overeem has fought in Strikeforce since like 04.
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Post by Denver Nuggets on Feb 13, 2010 0:52:49 GMT -5
Just because a place is full of prospects doesnt mean their good. They have the POTENTIAL to be good. NBA D-League teams are full of prospects. Fedor has fought once in Strikeforce so you cant really claim him like that as he was number one before signing with them. And if I recall Overeem has fought in Strikeforce since like 04. you can't compare there prospect to nba dl because some of these guys arepotential better than ufc fighters. Shinya Aoki- one of the best submission fighters in mma...better than 95% of the guys in the ufc at submission. Bobby Lashley- Has the strength like brock might be more explosive. Tyron Woodley has a wrestling background as good as brocks. GEGARD MOUSASI - just as good as anderson or gsp BRETT ROGERS-lost to the best fighter in the world, probably could whoop alot of ass in the ufc. Fabricio Werdum- proved he can be a top 5 hw in the ufc...did beat gabriel and vera RENATO SOBRAL-enough said guy is a legend then u got...sheild,diaz, le,henderson,matt lin,etc
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Post by Phoenix Suns on Feb 13, 2010 21:04:08 GMT -5
did u really jus say mousasi is as good as gsp or anderson silva...ru a f'n retard? thats a totally great statement considering they are the top 2 p4p fighters in the world
sobral is only fighting in strikeforce cuz he couldn beat chuck that doesn make u a legend werdum - released by ufc ....gonzaga isnt that good, and vera wasnt at the top of his game when they fought
sheilds would get murdered by silva and dont tell me u think nick diaz can beat gsp..plz stop plz
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Post by Denver Nuggets on Feb 13, 2010 21:36:26 GMT -5
did u really jus say mousasi is as good as gsp or anderson silva...ru a f'n retard? thats a totally great statement considering they are the top 2 p4p fighters in the world sobral is only fighting in strikeforce cuz he couldn beat chuck that doesn make u a legend werdum - released by ufc ....gonzaga isnt that good, and vera wasnt at the top of his game when they fought sheilds would get murdered by silva and dont tell me u think nick diaz can beat gsp..plz stop plz if u read my statement properly i never said sheild,diaz can beat gsp etc...i just said they were good fighter. What I did say is mousasi is just as good as anderson and gsp....u need to watch the media outside of the united stated...fedor is the top p4p in the world. mousasi is a top in the top 6... mousasi is f**king dangerous at age 24 the man is skilled as hell...have u ever seen him fight?? I have seen everyone fight mousasi is amazing aside from fedor he is the second best fighter not in the ufc. He will be in the ufc soon so anything from now on is hearsay.
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Post by Phoenix Suns on Feb 14, 2010 12:56:02 GMT -5
i have seen him fight...hes impressive... i seen him destroy sobral....but hes no where near gsp or anderson silva
fedor isnt the top guy anymore when fedor beats teh top ufc guys then he can be number 1 but anderson silva is easily top p4p and then id say its a toss up between gsp and fedor for 2nd
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Post by Denver Nuggets on Feb 14, 2010 13:51:46 GMT -5
i have seen him fight...hes impressive... i seen him destroy sobral....but hes no where near gsp or anderson silva fedor isnt the top guy anymore when fedor beats teh top ufc guys then he can be number 1 but anderson silva is easily top p4p and then id say its a toss up between gsp and fedor for 2nd here is what I don't get I love anderson he is been on a hot streak but how can you say that about fedor when he has not lost a fight yet. He is still active in the year and a bite he has beat 2 formers ufc champ, top 10 hw fighter in the world. Name some of the best HW...if Nogueria beat randy , fedor would dismantle randy easily. He is the best right now in the game Dana White wants fedor more than anybody but can't get him. Compared to any HW today he is way more skilled than any of them.
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Post by Golden State Warriors on Feb 14, 2010 16:17:22 GMT -5
Fedor isnt undefeated.
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Feb 14, 2010 16:24:16 GMT -5
Fedor's only loss is a joke. So don't bring that up.
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Post by Golden State Warriors on Feb 14, 2010 16:44:24 GMT -5
He lost. Deal with it.
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Feb 14, 2010 17:27:04 GMT -5
He's still P4P the best fighter in the world..
He's the greatest to ever lace up in the MMA world.
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Post by Golden State Warriors on Feb 14, 2010 17:38:50 GMT -5
He's still P4P the best fighter in the world.. He's the greatest to ever lace up in the MMA world. Wow. Now your just speaking without thinking. He is up there for P4P fighting, but he isn't number one. You can't be number one if you dont go where the challenge is. He went to Strikeforce only because they would co-promote with his company. Greatest to ever lace up in the MMA world? Two words for ya, Royce Gracie.
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Feb 14, 2010 17:40:21 GMT -5
Royce Gracie is great.
Not doubting that..
Fedor is the greatest though. I don't care what ANYBODY says.
Until I'm proven otherwise, I'll stand behind that.
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Post by Denver Nuggets on Feb 14, 2010 18:04:53 GMT -5
LOl GWS u are crazy gracie is great but different era....the mma world has changed a prime gracie would get killed by anderson silva. Gracie was great cause bjj was new and he master it today everyone masted bjj. It like saying larry Bird would murder lebron james if they ever played together.
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Post by Phoenix Suns on Feb 15, 2010 17:17:51 GMT -5
fedor not the greatest of all time...he is not even the best p4p right now... once he goes up a weight class for 2 fights and knocks both of them out within 2 and a half mins (1 being a former champ) then u can talk about him bein top p4p
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Feb 15, 2010 17:19:39 GMT -5
See mcbeast, he can't go up two classes because he's in the highest weight class..
You can say whatever you want.. I believe what I believe, and P4P is just a belief system
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Post by Phoenix Suns on Feb 15, 2010 17:22:47 GMT -5
i said a weight class and no there is a such thing as a super hw class
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Feb 15, 2010 18:00:05 GMT -5
I realize this.. but he's even small for a heavyweight as it is.. He fights guys with 20-30 more pounds than him anyway.
You can say what you want McBeast, but he's the top heavyweight and has proven so for many years.
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Post by Phoenix Suns on Feb 16, 2010 20:34:30 GMT -5
so if hes a small hw why doesnt he goto where the talent is rich in lhw division....let him goto the ufc and beat all the top lhw's including silva
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Post by San Antonio Spurs on Feb 16, 2010 20:37:36 GMT -5
so if hes a small hw why doesnt he goto where the talent is rich in lhw division....let him goto the ufc and beat all the top lhw's including silva That involves dropping near 20 pounds.. Not an easy thing for a man to do at his size, and when you drop weight you risk health injuries as well.. and Fedor isn't about to do that.. He's proven himself in HW, just let him do what he wants.. He's a humble guy, not an asshole like Brock Lesnar.. sorry that doesn't fit your criteria of a guy to be a fan of.
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