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Post by Oklahoma City Thunder on Apr 14, 2009 0:35:17 GMT -5
This is important. I would like everyone to give me a well thought out top 5 list for each position because I want to get a basis on how to rate the superstars in this league. I'm pretty sure many of you have wondered why KG is a 97, and why Lebron and Kobe are only 96, etc.... I will average out everyone's top 5, and will put the rankings accordingly. Obviously, if I see biased votes, I will have to void that ranking. Please done be bias. Do whats best for the league. Please take account everything. Remember, defense is just as important as offense. Optional: You can give the players proposed ratings if you'd like. You dont have to. PG; 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. SG; 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. SF; 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. PF; 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. C; 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. If you have a question to what position a player plays, just ask. This should get our activity back up .
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Post by Oklahoma City Thunder on Apr 14, 2009 0:52:58 GMT -5
PG; 1. Chris Paul (95) 2. Deron Williams (91) 3. Tony Parker (88) 4. Steven Nash (87) 5. Chauncey Billups (85)
SG; 1. Kobe Bryant (98) 2. Dwyane Wade (95) 3. Brandon Roy (88) 4. Joe Johnson (87) 5. Kevin Durant (86)
SF; 1. Lebron James (98) 2. Paul Pierce (90) 3. Carmelo Anthony (89) 4. Danny Granger (86) 5. Caron Butler (86)
PF; 1. Tim Duncan (95) 2. Kevin Garnett (93) 3. Dirk Nowitzki (92) 4. Amare Stoudemire (92) 5. Chris Bosh (91)
C; 1. Dwight Howard (94) 2. Yao Ming (88) 3. Shaquille O'Neal (85) 4. Marcus Camby (82) 5. Andris Biedrins (79)
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Post by Oklahoma City Thunder on Apr 14, 2009 0:54:28 GMT -5
This is just off the top of the dome, so if I missed someone accidentally, dont lynch me This is the type of thing im looking for from everyone.
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Apr 14, 2009 1:02:21 GMT -5
PG; 1. Chris Paul (95) 2. Deron Williams (90) 3. Tony Parker (87) 4. Steven Nash (86) 5. Devin Harris (85)
SG; 1. Kobe Bryant (98) 2. Dwyane Wade (96) 3. Kevin Durant (87) 4. Brandon Roy (87) 5. Joe Johnson (87)
SF; 1. Lebron James (98) 2. Carmelo Anthony (89) 3. Danny Granger(88) 4. Paul Pierce(88) 5. Rashard Lewis (84)
PF; 1. Dirk Nowitzki (94) 2. Tim Duncan (94) 3. Kevin Garnett (93) 4. Chris Bosh (91) 5. Amare Stoudemire (91)
C; 1. Dwight Howard (93) 2. Yao Ming (88) 3. Shaq (84) 4. Marcus Camby (82) 5. Nene (80)
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Post by supremegm - MIA on Apr 14, 2009 8:53:43 GMT -5
PG; 1. Chris Paul (93) 2. Tony Parker (88) 3. Deron Williams (88) 4. Chauncey Billups (86) 5. Devin Harris (86)
SG; 1. Kobe Bryant (97) 2. Dwayne Wade (96) 3. Joe Johnson (88) 4. Brandon Roy (88) 5. Allen Iverson (87)
SF; 1. Lebron James (97) 2. Kevin Durant (89) 3. Paul Pierce (88) 4. Danny Granger (87) 5. Carmelo Anthony (87)
PF; 1. Tim Duncan (91) 2. Kevin Garnett (91) 3. Dirk Nowitzki (89) 4. Amare Staudemire (87) 5. Pau Gasol (87)
C; 1. Dwight Howard (93) 2. Yao Ming (89) 3. Shaquille O'Neal (86) 4. Nene (84) 5. Chris Kaman (80)
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Post by New Jersey Nets on Apr 14, 2009 10:46:11 GMT -5
PG:
1 - Chris Paul (95) 2 - Deron Williams (90) 3 - Tony Parker (88) 4 - Devin Harris (87) 5 - Steve Nash (86)
SG:
1 - Kobe Bryant (98) 2 - Dwyane Wade (93) 3 - Brandon Roy (88) 4 - Joe Johnson (87) 5 - Kevin Martin (87)
SF
1 - LeBron James (98) 2 - Carmelo Anthony (90) 3 - Paul Pierce (89) 4 - Danny Granger (89) 5 - Andre Iguodala (87)
PF
1 - Kevin Garnett (97) 2 - Tim Duncan (95) 3 - Amare Stoudemire (93) 4 - Dirk Nowistky (91) 5 - Chris Bosh (90)
C
1 - Dwight Howard (97) 2 - Yao Ming (89) 3 - Shaquille O'neal (88) 4 - Pau Gasol (88) 5 - Marcus Camby (85)
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Post by Denver Nuggets on Apr 14, 2009 10:55:51 GMT -5
PG:
1 - Chris Paul (95) 2 - Deron Williams (93) 3 - Tony Parker (90) 4 - steve Nash(86) 5 - Monta Ellis (85)
SG:
1 - Kobe Bryant (98) 2 - Dwyane Wade (95) 3 - Brandon Roy (88) 4 - Joe Johnson (88) 5 - Kevin Martin (86)
SF
1 - LeBron James (98) 2 - Carmelo Anthony (92) 3 - Paul Pierce (89) 4 - Danny Granger (87) 5 - Kevin Durrant (87)
PF
1 - Tim Duncan (97) 2 - Kevin Garnett(97) 3 - Dirk Nowistky (93) 4 - Chris Bosh (92) 5 - Amare (92)
C
1 - Dwight Howard (98) 2 - Yao Ming (95) 3 - Shaquille O'neal (88) 4 - Pau Gasol (88) 5 - Al Jefferson (87
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Post by Chicago Bulls on Apr 14, 2009 11:24:34 GMT -5
PG; 1. Chris Paul (95) 2. Deron Williams (91) 3. Tony Parker (88) 4. Steven Nash (87) 5. Chauncey Billups (85) SG; 1. Kobe Bryant (96) 2. Dwyane Wade (95) 3. Brandon Roy (88) 4. Joe Johnson (87) 5. Kevin Durant (86) SF; 1. Lebron James (96) 2. Paul Pierce (90) 3. Carmelo Anthony (89) 4. Danny Granger (86) 5. Caron Butler (86) PF; 1. Tim Duncan (95) 2. Kevin Garnett (93) 3. Dirk Nowitzki (92) 4. Amare Stoudemire (90) 5. Chris Bosh (90) C; 1. Dwight Howard (94) 2. Yao Ming (88) 3. Shaquille O'Neal (85) 4. Marcus Camby (82) 5. Andrew Bynum(82) 5a. Andris Biedrins (79) I felt it necessary to add a 5a for top centers because I feel Bynum deserves to be on this list (as does Biedrins) and I also feel Shaq and Camby wont deserve to be on it for to much longer because of their age. I know Bynum has had an injury problem but you cant argue against his talent as he proved it this year averaging around* 25 and 13 in the 5 games before he was injured. I also don't believe Kobe and LeBron should be 3 points higher then Duncan, I know he's getting older but I'd say their could still be a good argument made to take him in his prime to start a franchise over Lebron or Kobe in their prime. (* = I put around because I'm too lazy to average out the exact numbers)
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Post by Philadelphia 76ers on Apr 14, 2009 12:41:38 GMT -5
PG:
1) Chris Paul 2) Deron Williams 3) Tony Parker 4) Steve Nash 5) Chauncey Billups
SG:
1) Kobe Bryant 2) Dwayne Wade 3) Manu Ginobili 4) Joe Johnson 5) Brandon Roy
SF:
1) LeBron James 2) Carmelo Anthony 3) Paul Pierce 4) Kevin Durant 5) Danny Granger
PF:
1) Tim Duncan 2) Kevin Garnett 3) Dirk Nowitzki 4) Chris Bosh 5) Amare Stoudemire
C:
1) Dwight Howard 2) Yao Ming 3) Andrew Bynum 4) Shaquille O'Neal 5) Andres Biedrins
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Post by supremegm - MIA on Apr 14, 2009 14:47:56 GMT -5
everyone really thinks camby and biedrins are better than nene???
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Post by Oklahoma City Thunder on Apr 14, 2009 14:53:55 GMT -5
I think they are all in that group from 78-82
Okafor, Biedrins, Camby, Chandler, Bogut, Bynum, Nene are on similar levels, IMO
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Post by Los Angeles Lakers on Apr 14, 2009 16:18:59 GMT -5
PG; 1. Chris Paul (94) 2. Deron Williams (90) 3. Tony Parker (90) 4. Chauncey Billups (87) 5. Steve Nash (84)
SG; 1. Kobe Bryant (99) 2. Dwyane Wade (96) 3. Brandon Roy (90) 4. Manu Ginobli (88) 5. Joe Johnson (86)
SF; 1. Lebron James (99) 2. Paul Pierce (91) 3. Carmelo Anthony (89) 4. Danny Granger (87) 5. Kevin Durant (87)
PF; 1. Tim Duncan (96) 2. Kevin Garnett (94) 3. Dirk Nowitzki (91) 4. Chris Bosh (91) 5. Amare Stoudemire (90)
C; 1. Dwight Howard (94) 2. Yao Ming (90) 3. Shaquille O'Neal (86) 4. Andrew Bynum (83) 5. Marcus Camby (81)
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Post by Utah Jazz on Apr 14, 2009 23:55:43 GMT -5
PG; 1. Chris Paul 2. Deron Williams 3. Tony Parker 4. Chauncey Billups 5. Devin Harris
SG; 1. Kobe Bryant 2. Dwayne Wade 3. Brandon Roy 4. Joe Johnson 5. Manu Ginobili
SF; 1. LeBron James 2. Carmelo Anthony 3. Paul Pierce 4. Kevin Durant 5. Danny Granger
PF; 1. Tim Duncan 2. Kevin Garnett 3. Dirk Nowitzki 4. Chris Bosh 5. Amare Stoudemire
C; 1. Dwight Howard 2. Yao Ming 3. Shaquille O'Neal 4. Al Jefferson 5. Marcus Camby
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Post by Charlotte Bobcats on Apr 15, 2009 0:47:33 GMT -5
PG; 1. Chris Paul 2. Tony Parker 3. Deron Williams 4. Chauncey Billups 5. Derrick Rose
SG; 1. Dwyane Wade 2. Kobe Bryant 3. Joe Johnson 4. Kevin Durant 5. Brandon Roy
SF; 1. Lebron James 2. Carmelo Anthony 3. Paul Pierce 4. Ron Artest 5. Danny Granger
PF; 1. Amare Stoudemire 2. Chris Bosh 3. Kevin Garnett 4. Paul Gasol 5. Tim Ducan (I guess, I can't think of anyone else)
C; 1. Dwight Howard 2. Yao Ming 3. Shaquille O'Neal 4. Al Jefferson 5. Marcus Camby
On my PF's, I am NOT being bias. Dirk is softer than Charmine Toilet Paper, and Duncan is the most overrated player in the history of the NBA. All he does is just stand at the free throw line and Parker comes off a screen and he kicks it back to him from a WIDE OPEN 15 footer jumper. Anyone can do that, I'm sorry please don't throw my rankings out but that is honestly how I feel.
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Post by Denver Nuggets on Apr 15, 2009 1:31:46 GMT -5
PG; 1. Chris Paul 2. Tony Parker 3. Deron Williams 4. Chauncey Billups 5. Derrick Rose SG; 1. Dwyane Wade 2. Kobe Bryant 3. Joe Johnson 4. Kevin Durant 5. Brandon Roy SF; 1. Lebron James 2. Carmelo Anthony 3. Paul Pierce 4. Ron Artest 5. Danny Granger PF; 1. Amare Stoudemire 2. Chris Bosh 3. Kevin Garnett 4. Paul Gasol 5. Tim Ducan (I guess, I can't think of anyone else) C; 1. Dwight Howard 2. Yao Ming 3. Shaquille O'Neal 4. Al Jefferson 5. Marcus Camby On my PF's, I am NOT being bias. Dirk is softer than Charmine Toilet Paper, and Duncan is the most overrated player in the history of the NBA. All he does is just stand at the free throw line and Parker comes off a screen and he kicks it back to him from a WIDE OPEN 15 footer jumper. Anyone can do that, I'm sorry please don't throw my rankings out but that is honestly how I feel. bobcats i'm gonig to forgive u on this one but any man who has amare as the best pf must be high when making this list. #1 td or kg.. ...tim duncan post game is insane if u want to learn how to be a post player learn from this guy...took his spin move.
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Post by Oklahoma City Thunder on Apr 15, 2009 1:59:13 GMT -5
Yea, I gotta agree with DEN here. TD is going to go down as the greatest PF to ever play the game. Far from "the most overrated player in NBA history"
And its not like hes a "has been". Hes still playing at a very high level.
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Post by Washington Wizards on Apr 15, 2009 9:19:02 GMT -5
PG: 1. Chris Paul 2. Deron Williams 3. Tony Parker 4. Chauncey Billups 5. Devin Harris
SG: 1. Kobe Bryant 2. Dwyane Wade 3. Brandon Roy 4. Joe Johnson 5. Kevin Martin
SF: 1. Lebron James 2. Paul Pierce 3. Carmelo Anthony 4. Danny Granger 5. Kevin Durant
PF: 1. Tim Duncan 2. Kevin Garnett 3. Dirk Nowitzki 4. Chris Bosh 5. Amare Stoudemire
C; 1. Dwight Howard 2. Yao Ming 3. Shaquille O'Neal 4. Pau Gasol 5. Andrew Bynum
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Post by Charlotte Bobcats on Apr 15, 2009 11:30:11 GMT -5
Yea, I gotta agree with DEN here. TD is going to go down as the greatest PF to ever play the game. Far from "the most overrated player in NBA history" And its not like hes a "has been". Hes still playing at a very high level. He IS a has been, watch them play. He sits his ass at the free throw line and Parker drives, his man helps on Parker and he kicks it back to him for a jumper. He WAS Good, not great but good...now he's really overrated. I'm sorry I'm calling it like I see it, Parker is the best player on the Spurs. ANYONE can shut Duncan down on Offense unless he is just wide open. I've seen Gasol, Shaq, and others do it to him. Yeah he's smart, and that made him good in his prime when he had some athleticism...now he's nothing more than a bigman version of Shane Battier.
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Post by Denver Nuggets on Apr 15, 2009 13:03:12 GMT -5
LOl bobcats i tried to forget this but u crossed that line..first off u can't be a has been when his numbers are 19/10 which is better than gasol minus the fact he has been injured and and plays 5 less minutes. Tony parker has been the best player(duncan numbers are better overall) on the spurs this year but the spurs are not the spurs without tim duncan. The has been comment crossed the line how can he be a has been when his numbers are better than yao,kg,gasol,shaq, drik in terms of being a big blocks etc. To truly understand how great tim duncan is the spurs can play a front court of matt bonner (who is at best an 8th man) with tim and still outwork the opposing team front court. If ur upset that he stands at the free throw line is because he has been playing through injuries.
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Post by Charlotte Bobcats on Apr 15, 2009 14:11:57 GMT -5
Yes you can be, if you are getting open jumpers (because of Parker) then you are going to score. I didn't say he was crap, but he is nothing compared to what he was. I stand by my statement that is he nothing more than a big man version of Shane Battier.
PS. The Spurs have Drew Gooden now, legit starting big.
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