Det/NYK

[Detroit Pistons]

To NYK:
83-Chauncey Billups-$10,500,000--11,000,000--11,000,000
83-Richard Hamilton-$10,812,500--11,625,000
Det 10 2nd

Total:$21,312,500

To Det:
Carmelo Anthony(89): $13,762,775 | $15,070,550 | $16,378,325 | $17,686,100


Total:$13,762,775


I accept, I still dont have the star im looking for and I hope melo will be it, Im taking a risk with a 2 for 1 starters deal, but am hoping Stuckey can step up and play well at the point

[hardballer1 - NYK]

i accept

i need a change
i know that now i have 4 80+ guards, but at least 2 of them will be dealt for bigs.

[Oklahoma City Thunder]

Its 2 guys most likely on the downsides of their careers for Melo. I dont see Rip or Chauncey gaining any ratings points in their future, only losing points. While Melo is still a young and growing. It doesn't really make sense for NYK. And why are you giving up Rose's expiring? You have to realize that his contract in it self is worth a ton. I know you have to balance out the salaries, but hes not the guy to use here. IMO, this is highway robbery on DET's part. He gets a young star (top 8 player in the game) and an expiring contract to boot.

I reject.

[hardballer1 - NYK]

true, its mainly on the hope that i can trade rip or chauncey to get a good big. i gave up rose only bcuz det wouldnt take simmons and salaries wouldnt have worked otherwise. but i see okc's point...

[Detroit Pistons]

Nov 15, 2008 20:25:23 GMT -5 Oklahoma City Thunder said:

Its 2 guys most likely on the downsides of their careers for Melo. I dont see Rip or Chauncey gaining any ratings points in their future, only losing points. While Melo is still a young and growing. It doesn't really make sense for NYK. And why are you giving up Rose's expiring? You have to realize that his contract in it self is worth a ton. I know you have to balance out the salaries, but hes not the guy to use here. IMO, this is highway robbery on DET's part. He gets a young star (top 8 player in the game) and an expiring contract to boot.

I reject.

I really dont see how you are rejecting this one. Billups is getting a fresh new start in Denever and playing very well and Rip is starting to fit in now more with AI at his side, both still have at least 3 good years left and neither will go down. Everywhere I go I here that there getting older and declining but there stats are still as good as they were in 04 when they won the ship. It's two mid 80's for one high 80. Also obiously 2 guys are gonna put up better stats then one and look at NY team now, Billups-Ellis-Rip-Warrick-Kaman, with Nate Robinson off the bench.

[Orlando Magic]

I reject. Explanation: Rip and Chauncey for Melo and a bad contract...thats legit. But that 7 plus million expiring is GOLD! Rip in sim leagues is garbage IMO and vastly overrated and so is chauncey but to a lesser extent. I think if NYK were to add a worse contract that wasnt expiring then it would fair enough to accept but Detroit is getting a IRL/Sim MONSTER for two guys on their way out AND almost 8 million in cap space. No, reject

[Detroit Pistons]

i mean i dont know what eslse we can really do, the only other thing contract wise that would work is Jeff Foster and Mo Evans, would you guys accept that; even though Foster has a 5 mil expiring

[Detroit Pistons]

NOTE:WE HAVE CHANGED THE DEAL

ROSE IS NO LONGER INVOLVED IN THE TRADE

[Utah Jazz]

Uh, your totals are off.

[Detroit Pistons]

They should be good nwo Utah

[Utah Jazz]

I'm pretty sure that if your salary chart is right, you don't have the cap space. And it doesn't work under the 125% rule.

[Charlotte Bobcats]

Doesn't NY have a shit load of cap space?

[Detroit Pistons]

NYK has over 10 mil in cap space i believe

[Utah Jazz]

Whoops, looked at it backwards. I gotta reject though, and the removance of Rose has nothing to do with it. NY should be rebuilding, not trading for 2 30+ year old guys that are declining. Carmelo is 24, and getting better. It's not a matter of stats as much of it is a matter of age.

[Detroit Pistons]

Nov 15, 2008 22:12:26 GMT -5 Utah Jazz said:

Whoops, looked at it backwards. I gotta reject though, and the removance of Rose has nothing to do with it. NY should be rebuilding, not trading for 2 30+ year old guys that are declining. Carmelo is 24, and getting better. It's not a matter of stats as much of it is a matter of age.

he already has ellis and kaman along with warrick and Nate, don't ya need a couple of vets?

[Utah Jazz]

IMO, he's better off with Kaman-Warrick-Anthony-Ellis-Robinson and be able to compete for longer than try and win with Billups and Rip for a couple of years.

[Detroit Pistons]

For the long run that may be true, but still I dont really understand how this is bad enough to reject, anyway u look at it; it is still 2 83's for an 89

[Utah Jazz]

2 declining role player 83's for an improving superstar 89.

[Orlando Magic]

id say its fair enough to accept so i will...

[Detroit Pistons]

So as of now its 2-1 in rejecting favor