DAL/POR

[Dallas Mavericks]

Dallas sends

82 | Stephon Marbury -------- 19,012,500 --- 20,840,625(TO)
83 | Corey Maggette --------- 7,000,000 ---- 7,000,000(TO)
69 | Desagana Diop --------- 2,146,000

dallas recieves

83 | Zach Randolph----- $13,333,333 --- $14,666,667 --- $16,000,000 --- $17,333,333
85 | Rashard Lewis 85 ----- $10,200,554 --- $10,600,554 --- $11,000,554
71 | Luke Ridnour 71 ----- $6,500,000 --- $6,500,000 --- $6,500,000

total incoming salary
30,033,887

total outcoming salary
28,158,500

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Portland recieves

82 | Stephon Marbury -------- 19,012,500 --- 20,840,625(TO)
83 | Corey Maggette --------- 7,000,000 ---- 7,000,000(TO)
69 | Desagana Diop --------- 2,146,000

portland sends

83 | Zach Randolph----- $13,333,333 --- $14,666,667 --- $16,000,000 --- $17,333,333
85 | Rashard Lewis 85 ----- $10,200,554 --- $10,600,554 --- $11,000,554
71 | Luke Ridnour 71 ----- $6,500,000 --- $6,500,000 --- $6,500,000

total outcoming salary
30,033,887

total incoming salary
28,158,500

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i accept, i believe randolph can play C and i get a superstar SF, i might make some moves after this one

[sharmoot - POR]

i accept
i get that contract of marburys which has a team option for the last year
solid SF in magette, which will help roy get some more scoring rooM
i can finally slide alrdirdge down to the PF spot
marbury can also lead at PG and lets see how we go

lewis n randolph didnt work , lets hope magette and roy will

[Oklahoma City Thunder]

I truly don't understand this trade for Portland's side. Even if this is a salary dump, its a whole lot to give up, IMO.

Here's my breakdown:

Randolph > Marbury
Ridnour = Diop
Lewis >> Maggette

Every part of this trade favors Dallas.


I would like a more in detail explanation from Portland before I vote. Is this just a salary dump?

[Dallas Mavericks]

Apr 11, 2008 7:42:19 GMT -5 Oklahoma City Thunder said:

I truly don't understand this trade for Portland's side. Even if this is a salary dump, its a whole lot to give up, IMO.

Here's my breakdown:

Randolph > Marbury
Ridnour = Diop
Lewis >> Maggette

Every part of this trade favors Dallas.


I would like a more in detail explanation from Portland before I vote. Is this just a salary dump?

does this mean i may have to add more?

[Oklahoma City Thunder]

Apr 11, 2008 7:45:51 GMT -5 Dallas Mavericks said:

Apr 11, 2008 7:42:19 GMT -5 Oklahoma City Thunder said:

I truly don't understand this trade for Portland's side. Even if this is a salary dump, its a whole lot to give up, IMO.

Here's my breakdown:

Randolph > Marbury
Ridnour = Diop
Lewis >> Maggette

Every part of this trade favors Dallas.


I would like a more in detail explanation from Portland before I vote. Is this just a salary dump?

does this mean i may have to add more?

Not necessarily. I want to hear Portland's plan and what direction he is taking his team.

[sharmoot - POR]

the randolph and lewis combination hasnt been working for me in the past 2 (1 and a half) seasons, id preferably want to get rid of randolph only, but no1 wants to take his contract at all. atleast ill get some cap room next season (with marburys contract TO next season) and see how maggette goes and if he doesnt play well, then i wont pick up his option either, and if i do, then he'll be of good trade value because of his contract.
honestly wouldve liked more in this deal as im giving lewis and randolph, but we negotiated for a while and this is the best we could come up with.
im trying 2 build around aldridge, roy, webster, outlaw = youth. thats my direction of the team.
i mean, you've got to admit, my team has been disapointing this year.

[Dallas Mavericks]

maybe that explains everything. now can SEA accept?

[Utah Jazz]

I'm not really a fan of this for Portland. I can see why he would want to move Randolph, but that price is pretty steep. I'll wait a little while longer to make my decision, but IMO, if Lewis and Maggette were taken out, it'd be more acceptable.

And trust me Dallas, Z-Bo's best position isn't center.

[sharmoot - POR]

Apr 11, 2008 9:13:10 GMT -5 Utah Jazz said:

I'm not really a fan of this for Portland. I can see why he would want to move Randolph, but that price is pretty steep. I'll wait a little while longer to make my decision, but IMO, if Lewis and Maggette were taken out, it'd be more acceptable.

And trust me Dallas, Z-Bo's best position isn't center.

actually u know what, that seems like quite a nice deal

but anyway we dont have a choice, we will wait and see.

[Cleveland Cavaliers]

the trade is absolutely fine in my opinion. let the gm's trade.

[Chicago Bulls]

Apr 11, 2008 17:47:09 GMT -5 Cleveland Cavaliers said:

the trade is absolutely fine in my opinion. let the gm's trade.

Yeah the trade is absolutely fine..............besides the fact that it's unfair, thats why theirs a trade committee.

(note this isn't me rejecting this trade but I do think it needs to be tweaked a bit to be accepted.)

[Cleveland Cavaliers]

well the trade committe throws around the word unfair a whole lot. You guys reject trades that honestly aren't that bad. I'm a firm believer in letting the gm's trade freely without the nazi trade committe analyzing the trade like thier trying to find the cure for cancer. Let the GM's do what they wan't. The trade committe shouldnt even be used unless the trade is ridiculously bad. but for a trade like this just let it go through. let the gm's be the death of thier franchise. it's more realistic that way.

[Chicago Bulls]

Apr 11, 2008 20:25:29 GMT -5 Cleveland Cavaliers said:

well the trade committe throws around the word unfair a whole lot. You guys reject trades that honestly aren't that bad. I'm a firm believer in letting the gm's trade freely without the nazi trade committe analyzing the trade like thier trying to find the cure for cancer. Let the GM's do what they wan't. The trade committe shouldnt even be used unless the trade is ridiculously bad. but for a trade like this just let it go through. let the gm's be the death of thier franchise. it's more realistic that way.

If we do that we'll end up with a bunch of shitty teams and GM's will quite after their teams star to suck bad enough and no one will want to pick up those teams as a new GM

[Detroit Pistons]

Apr 11, 2008 20:25:29 GMT -5 Cleveland Cavaliers said:

well the trade committe throws around the word unfair a whole lot. You guys reject trades that honestly aren't that bad. I'm a firm believer in letting the gm's trade freely without the nazi trade committe analyzing the trade like thier trying to find the cure for cancer. Let the GM's do what they wan't. The trade committe shouldnt even be used unless the trade is ridiculously bad. but for a trade like this just let it go through. let the gm's be the death of thier franchise. it's more realistic that way.

you obiously dont know how sim leagues work, if we allow that this league would go down the drain
dont question the admins
i like it how u call them the nazi trade committe
i agree with sea, no point for por to do this, even if lewis and randolph are strugiling

[Utah Jazz]

Apr 11, 2008 20:25:29 GMT -5 Cleveland Cavaliers said:

well the trade committe throws around the word unfair a whole lot. You guys reject trades that honestly aren't that bad. I'm a firm believer in letting the gm's trade freely without the nazi trade committe analyzing the trade like thier trying to find the cure for cancer. Let the GM's do what they wan't. The trade committe shouldnt even be used unless the trade is ridiculously bad. but for a trade like this just let it go through. let the gm's be the death of thier franchise. it's more realistic that way.

That's the exact opposite of what's supposed to happen...

I'll go ahead and reject this. I get why Portland's doing this, but it doesn't really need to do it. I think the core deal would be Marbury/Diop for Randolph/Ridnour, and that's fair. The Maggette-Lewis swap just kills it for Portland, since Lewis exceeds in sims and Maggette is about average, not to mention Lewis is better in real life. That's just my thoughts, I don't want the other CM's to follow my centiments exactly, just expressing what I was thinking.

[Dallas Mavericks]

Apr 11, 2008 21:58:56 GMT -5 Utah Jazz said:

Apr 11, 2008 20:25:29 GMT -5 Cleveland Cavaliers said:

well the trade committe throws around the word unfair a whole lot. You guys reject trades that honestly aren't that bad. I'm a firm believer in letting the gm's trade freely without the nazi trade committe analyzing the trade like thier trying to find the cure for cancer. Let the GM's do what they wan't. The trade committe shouldnt even be used unless the trade is ridiculously bad. but for a trade like this just let it go through. let the gm's be the death of thier franchise. it's more realistic that way.

That's the exact opposite of what's supposed to happen...

I'll go ahead and reject this. I get why Portland's doing this, but it doesn't really need to do it. I think the core deal would be Marbury/Diop for Randolph/Ridnour, and that's fair. The Maggette-Lewis swap just kills it for Portland, since Lewis exceeds in sims and Maggette is about average, not to mention Lewis is better in real life. That's just my thoughts, I don't want the other CM's to follow my centiments exactly, just expressing what I was thinking.

the reason why im doing this trade is because im getting lewis and randolph, i dont want to get randolph alone. im gonna wait for the other cm's to chek this

[Los Angeles Clippers]

First thing I thought when I saw this was "what the hell?" Just being honest. I'm rejecting it as well. I see the salary evacuation here, and I kind of see why Portland is doing it...but I don't think he has to do this exact thing.

Also, Dallas you don't need to explain to us why you're doing this deal...it favors you easily, no explanation needed.

Reject for me.

[sharmoot - POR]

i guess i see where all the GM's are coming from as to regards of rejecting it
i think i just rushed it a little because this is the first real offer where ive gotten an offer for randolph, in-experience (on the trade part) on my behalf, we will jhust have to wait and see where this leads us

[Oklahoma City Thunder]

There is no reason why Cleveland or Detroit should be posting in this thread. I've stated on numerous occasions the only people that should post in a trade thread are: the parties involved in the deal and the staff. Outside opinions are not needed or wanted. All they do is provoke unnecessary bickering back and forth. Thats what the post-trade polls are for. Give your opinion there.



As for this trade itself. I will accept it becasue I trust Portland as a GM and he wont abandon his team once in rebuild mode, as he has been here since the beginning of this league.

[Los Angeles Clippers]

Alright, myself and Utah have rejected, Seattle has accepted.