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Post by Los Angeles Lakers on Aug 18, 2008 15:18:16 GMT -5
like i said man, thats been the big debate owens or edwards, with dal they have more weapons, jurvievus is going to be out for at least the 1st 6 weeks LJ i took a shot on, If he can return to form it will be a steal in Rd.2 and with the WR, trust me I know all things Lions and Detroit is going to be more of a 50-50 team, making the run open up the pass, and kitna and CJ have some great chemistry going, hooking up this preason in 2 games 8-9 for like 150 years and 2 TD and with Ward the Stellers always like to throw in the endzone, he could be a TD magnet okay LJ could work out for you since he is a inside the tackle runner. but you STILL made a mistake with Owens how does Cowboys have more weapons then the Browns. even without Juriviecius they have Tim Carter and Josh Cribbs on the team. The Cowboys have Owens and Witten and that's about it. I am sorry but Sam Hurd, Miles Austin, and Isiah Stainback is not even close to Josh Cribbs. and Patrick Crayton choked in big games just look at the Giants game, he dropped 3 catchable balls. and who knows if Danny Amendola is gonna be the next Wes Welker he could be though.
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Aug 18, 2008 16:24:56 GMT -5
like i said man, thats been the big debate owens or edwards, with dal they have more weapons, jurvievus is going to be out for at least the 1st 6 weeks LJ i took a shot on, If he can return to form it will be a steal in Rd.2 and with the WR, trust me I know all things Lions and Detroit is going to be more of a 50-50 team, making the run open up the pass, and kitna and CJ have some great chemistry going, hooking up this preason in 2 games 8-9 for like 150 years and 2 TD and with Ward the Stellers always like to throw in the endzone, he could be a TD magnet okay LJ could work out for you since he is a inside the tackle runner. but you STILL made a mistake with Owens how does Cowboys have more weapons then the Browns. even without Juriviecius they have Tim Carter and Josh Cribbs on the team. The Cowboys have Owens and Witten and that's about it. I am sorry but Sam Hurd, Miles Austin, and Isiah Stainback is not even close to Josh Cribbs. and Patrick Crayton choked in big games just look at the Giants game, he dropped 3 catchable balls. and who knows if Danny Amendola is gonna be the next Wes Welker he could be though. we will see they both could have the same year, braylon with more TD and Owens with more Yards, but point wise the same
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Post by Atlanta Hawks on Aug 18, 2008 17:22:23 GMT -5
Umm...what are you smokin? Owens and Edwards aren't even in the same conversation. Owens is the only receiver that can come close to putting up the number Moss did last year or even bettering them. Owens is even more focused this year and all of the Cowboys players and personnel are raving about his training camp. With no proven #2 receiver Owens will get even more passes his way. Owens should have been the pick.
Giants D? Really? You do know they lost Strahan. Also, with having the play the Cowboys, Redskins, and Eagles a total of 6 times, I doubt their D will be in the top 20 this year.
If you want to take a chance of a receiver with talent that could surprise, how about Josh Morgan or David Clowney. Both are ripping up the preseason and Morgan could be the #3 in a Martz offense. Remember Shaun McDonald?
You really could have gotten better value for every pick. I doubt you come close to winning unless the other teams are worse.
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Aug 18, 2008 17:26:38 GMT -5
Umm...what are you smokin? Owens and Edwards aren't even in the same conversation. Owens is the only receiver that can come close to putting up the number Moss did last year or even bettering them. Owens is even more focused this year and all of the Cowboys players and personnel are raving about his training camp. With no proven #2 receiver Owens will get even more passes his way. Owens should have been the pick. Giants D? Really? You do know they lost Strahan. Also, with having the play the Cowboys, Redskins, and Eagles a total of 6 times, I doubt their D will be in the top 20 this year. If you want to take a chance of a receiver with talent that could surprise, how about Josh Morgan or David Clowney. Both are ripping up the preseason and Morgan could be the #3 in a Martz offense. Remember Shaun McDonald? You really could have gotten better value for every pick. I doubt you come close to winning unless the other teams are worse. 1.Owens this Owens that i could care less, Braylon is gonna be a stud this year and i like him over Owens 2.I was going to get the seahawks and then the guy before me took them so i got the Giants, im trying to trade for them but worst case scenario is they play horendous and i can pick up a team like the Titans 3.Ill stick with the backup WR i already have
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Aug 18, 2008 17:28:27 GMT -5
and btw u say Owens was the only one who put up number close to braylong last year? WRONG
moss=282 Edwards=220 Owens=218
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Post by Charlotte Bobcats on Aug 18, 2008 17:29:17 GMT -5
like i said man, thats been the big debate owens or edwards, with dal they have more weapons, jurvievus is going to be out for at least the 1st 6 weeks LJ i took a shot on, If he can return to form it will be a steal in Rd.2 and with the WR, trust me I know all things Lions and Detroit is going to be more of a 50-50 team, making the run open up the pass, and kitna and CJ have some great chemistry going, hooking up this preason in 2 games 8-9 for like 150 years and 2 TD and with Ward the Stellers always like to throw in the endzone, he could be a TD magnet okay LJ could work out for you since he is a inside the tackle runner. but you STILL made a mistake with Owens how does Cowboys have more weapons then the Browns. even without Juriviecius they have Tim Carter and Josh Cribbs on the team. The Cowboys have Owens and Witten and that's about it. I am sorry but Sam Hurd, Miles Austin, and Isiah Stainback is not even close to Josh Cribbs. and Patrick Crayton choked in big games just look at the Giants game, he dropped 3 catchable balls. and who knows if Danny Amendola is gonna be the next Wes Welker he could be though. No offense LA and I agree with you but am I the ONLY PERSON that remembers the Browns signed Donte Stallworth? That guy is a bad ass mofo. He was underrated with the Pats, he helped Welker a ton just his presence and still had a decent statical despite being hurt. But yeah T.O. and Braylon aren't even on the same page, Braylon might be top 10 (maybe) but T.O. is top 3 for sure.
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Post by Atlanta Hawks on Aug 18, 2008 17:32:15 GMT -5
and btw u say Owens was the only one who put up number close to braylong last year? WRONG moss=282 Edwards=220 Owens=218 Again, that is not what I said. I said he is the only one that can come close to putting up number like Moss did last year.
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Aug 18, 2008 17:36:17 GMT -5
and btw u say Owens was the only one who put up number close to braylong last year? WRONG moss=282 Edwards=220 Owens=218 Again, that is not what I said. I said he is the only one that can come close to putting up number like Moss did last year. i disagree with that Edwards is so underrated and I think he will be putting up better stats than TO
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Post by Atlanta Hawks on Aug 18, 2008 17:41:42 GMT -5
Again, that is not what I said. I said he is the only one that can come close to putting up number like Moss did last year. i disagree with that Edwards is so underrated and I think he will be putting up better stats than TO Can we frame this or keep this on this board forever?
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Post by Charlotte Bobcats on Aug 18, 2008 17:52:15 GMT -5
Uh Detroit do you watch a lot of football? T.O. is a freak and Braylon I mean he's okay but nothing speical.
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Aug 18, 2008 17:53:50 GMT -5
Uh Detroit do you watch a lot of football? T.O. is a freak and Braylon I mean he's okay but nothing speical. okay but nothing speical com man, r u kidding im not saying anything bad about TO im just saying I think braylon is going to be a stud this year ill let his play do the talking
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Post by Houston Rockets on Aug 18, 2008 17:56:45 GMT -5
braylon will be good... will be like #6 or #7 wr this year... not really worthy of #7 overall pick though. But hey, to each his own... just dont plan on picking up a 600 check
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Post by Charlotte Bobcats on Aug 18, 2008 17:57:54 GMT -5
I know I am a Cowboys fan and T.O. is my favorite player but common now? It's T.O. I mean I think Braylon is good, like Houston said #6 or #7 but WE ARE TALKING ABOUT T.O.
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Aug 18, 2008 18:05:50 GMT -5
I know I am a Cowboys fan and T.O. is my favorite player but common now? It's T.O. I mean I think Braylon is good, like Houston said #6 or #7 but WE ARE TALKING ABOUT T.O. 6 or 7??? how bout 2 or 3
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Post by Houston Rockets on Aug 18, 2008 18:14:41 GMT -5
1. Moss 2. TO 3. Wayne 4. Andre Johnson 5. Fitzgeraled 6. Braylon Edwards 7. TJ Whosyamomma
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Post by Detroit Pistons on Aug 18, 2008 18:22:52 GMT -5
1. Moss 2. TO 3. Wayne 4. Andre Johnson 5. Fitzgeraled 6. Braylon Edwards 7. TJ Whosyamomma gerald has bolden johnson isnt even healthy wanye couldnt even get over 10 TDs last year WITH harrison out
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Post by Los Angeles Lakers on Aug 19, 2008 7:35:08 GMT -5
okay LJ could work out for you since he is a inside the tackle runner. but you STILL made a mistake with Owens how does Cowboys have more weapons then the Browns. even without Juriviecius they have Tim Carter and Josh Cribbs on the team. The Cowboys have Owens and Witten and that's about it. I am sorry but Sam Hurd, Miles Austin, and Isiah Stainback is not even close to Josh Cribbs. and Patrick Crayton choked in big games just look at the Giants game, he dropped 3 catchable balls. and who knows if Danny Amendola is gonna be the next Wes Welker he could be though. No offense LA and I agree with you but am I the ONLY PERSON that remembers the Browns signed Donte Stallworth? That guy is a bad ass mofo. He was underrated with the Pats, he helped Welker a ton just his presence and still had a decent statical despite being hurt. But yeah T.O. and Braylon aren't even on the same page, Braylon might be top 10 (maybe) but T.O. is top 3 for sure. CHA I KNOW they signed Stallworth and MENTIONED him in the beginning so that's why I didn't want to repeat myself twice with that. and BTW Stallworth did not make Welker better, it was just the mere prescence of Moss that made WELKER AND STALLWORTH better. Same for Brady everyone says Brady won with avg. WR core he did, but he had a PRO BOWL D from 2000-2005, before they switched to pro bowl offense from 06-on.
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Post by Los Angeles Lakers on Aug 19, 2008 7:36:11 GMT -5
1. Moss 2. TO 3. Wayne 4. Andre Johnson 5. Fitzgeraled 6. Braylon Edwards 7. TJ Whosyamomma gerald has bolden johnson isnt even healthy wanye couldnt even get over 10 TDs last year WITH harrison out 1. Bolden has injury problems at times. 2. He is looking for a new contract so he MIGHT mail it in.
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Post by Charlotte Bobcats on Aug 19, 2008 8:14:13 GMT -5
No offense LA and I agree with you but am I the ONLY PERSON that remembers the Browns signed Donte Stallworth? That guy is a bad ass mofo. He was underrated with the Pats, he helped Welker a ton just his presence and still had a decent statical despite being hurt. But yeah T.O. and Braylon aren't even on the same page, Braylon might be top 10 (maybe) but T.O. is top 3 for sure. CHA I KNOW they signed Stallworth and MENTIONED him in the beginning so that's why I didn't want to repeat myself twice with that. and BTW Stallworth did not make Welker better, it was just the mere prescence of Moss that made WELKER AND STALLWORTH better. Same for Brady everyone says Brady won with avg. WR core he did, but he had a PRO BOWL D from 2000-2005, before they switched to pro bowl offense from 06-on. I agree with part of that, def. Moss makes anyone around him better because he's an auto double coverage. I don't think anyone was doubling Stallworth but you ALWAYS have to pay attention to him, and took the teams #2 CB to coverage him. That left either a LB or a nickleback covering Welker, which is a huge mismatches. The Pats Offense shouldn't be as dominating this year and there defense is older now for the most part (besides Mayo.) I give the Jets a chance in the AFC East for that reason, but point is Stallworth will take catches away from Braylon imo.
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Post by Los Angeles Lakers on Aug 19, 2008 19:11:50 GMT -5
CHA I KNOW they signed Stallworth and MENTIONED him in the beginning so that's why I didn't want to repeat myself twice with that. and BTW Stallworth did not make Welker better, it was just the mere prescence of Moss that made WELKER AND STALLWORTH better. Same for Brady everyone says Brady won with avg. WR core he did, but he had a PRO BOWL D from 2000-2005, before they switched to pro bowl offense from 06-on. I agree with part of that, def. Moss makes anyone around him better because he's an auto double coverage. I don't think anyone was doubling Stallworth but you ALWAYS have to pay attention to him, and took the teams #2 CB to coverage him. That left either a LB or a nickleback covering Welker, which is a huge mismatches. The Pats Offense shouldn't be as dominating this year and there defense is older now for the most part (besides Mayo.) I give the Jets a chance in the AFC East for that reason, but point is Stallworth will take catches away from Braylon imo. don't forget about DET's boy OLB Shawn Crable he was also drafted along with ILB Mayo and Whittle and Wheatley the 2 CB's.
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